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Re: Checking Recursion

From: Terje Bless <link@pobox.com>
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 00:17:16 +0100
To: QA Dev <public-qa-dev@w3.org>
Message-ID: <b02010503-1037-1359722C77CC11D9B94E000D9348908C@[193.157.66.142]>

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Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net> wrote:

>>>[…] we should rather check the URL of the target […]
>>Too many pitfalls to implement reliably, alas. That's what I started
>>out with, but ended up rejecting it for this method.
>
>Maybe you can elaborate on this? Is this an implementation issue or do
>you think about some edge cases like two validator implementations that
>validate each other?

Well, there are certainly the edge cases, but mainly it's a question of
recognizing when we're looking at an URL to ourselves; including all the
various ways “we” can be referred to.

I couldn't come up with any good way to do that more or less reliably, hence
the current implementation. I'm not even sure the current code works to
satisfaction; it was just the best I could come up with.

But don't get me wrong; I'm not looking for the theoretical perfect
implementation, just something to discourage casual abuse.


>Well, one of the very first things you'd do to check your installation
>would be to click on the Valid Foo badge on the homepage (or on the
>results page for your first validation result).

I'm not sure I agree with that, but…


>Allowing limited recursion is about as dangerous as allowing untrusted
>parties to use it in the first place.

…there is that, I suppose.


Would everyone with an opinion please chime in with a number please?

  Default Config: ? (is 0 now)
        v.w3.org: ?


Perhaps the logic should be: a positive integer means to limit recursion to
that depth, and 0 means to allow infinite recursion?

Or, possibly, we shouldn't even have a config option for this; it should check
itself, but not allow further recursion at all.

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