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Re: Identifying a book on the Web today

From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 17:38:36 +0200
Cc: Baldur Bjarnason <baldur@rebus.foundation>, Benjamin Young <byoung@bigbluehat.com>, David Wood <david.wood@ephox.com>, MURATA Makoto <eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp>, W3C Publishing Working Group <public-publ-wg@w3.org>
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To: Hadrien Gardeur <hadrien.gardeur@feedbooks.com>

> On 3 Aug 2017, at 17:34, Hadrien Gardeur <hadrien.gardeur@feedbooks.com <mailto:hadrien.gardeur@feedbooks.com>> wrote:
> 
> > * Using a URL that doesn’t identify the publication (e.g. an external HTML page) to help people indirectly locate a publication should be a feature that we provide by specifying some form of discovery mechanism (some form of link—HTTP header or link tag—with a format-specific rel value is the usual way of doing this).
> 
> I am not sure I 100% understand what you mean here. I guess you refer to the (still undecided) issue of locating the WP's manifest (however it will look like) using a URL. If so then yes, I completely agree that we have to provide a discovery mechanism.
> 
> But… alas! it is not easy to set up, at least for a lambda user, a proper HTTP based mechanism like, eg, content negotiations or controlling the return headers. This is also a constraint we will have to work with, content negotiation should probably be one but not _the_ mechanism to achieve that.
> 
> (The difficulties to control those things is one of the reasons that the Web developers community often seems, these days, to reject any HTTP based mechanisms…)
> 
> I believe that Baldur is saying that to discover a Web Publication, you don't have to visit one of its primary resource necessarily.
> 
> For example, you could browse a catalog and whenever you visit a specific product/title page, it would be capable of discovering the publication.

Ah. O.k., that is a different issue, and I agree that this should be discussed and possibly specified.

Ivan


> 
> For the discovery mechanism, the two most reliable methods are:
> - the link element in HTML
> - the Link header in HTTP
> 
> I fully agree that content negotiation and modifying HTTP headers won't always be an option, which is why there's also an option to handle discovery in HTML.
> 
> Hadrien


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