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Re: PROV-ISSUE-450: DM tables "incomplete" (specifically: activity ending activity) [prov-dm]

From: Luc Moreau <l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 07:56:28 +0100
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To: Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu>
CC: "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Hi Tim,


Here is the change I propose to make:

I have added a table "Table 2 ◊: Secondary elements in PROV-DM 
Relations" listing the various
optional secondary objects.

http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/working-copy/prov-dm-issue-450.html


If you are fine with the suggestion, I will include it in the editor's 
draft.

Luc


On 04/09/12 16:43, Timothy Lebo wrote:
> Luc,
>
> On Sep 4, 2012, at 11:32 AM, Luc Moreau wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> Can we try and reach agreement on this issue?
>>
>> Table 4: is about primary elements. So no change required here.
>>
>> Should we consider Table 4(bis), which is about secondary elements.
>> In a first approximation, it would contain the following entries:
>>
>> wasStartedBy: Activity x Activity (starter)
>> wasEndedBy: Activity x Activity (ender)
>> wasDerivedFrom: Entity x Activity
>> mentionOf: Entity x Entity(Bundle)
>> wasAssociatedWith: Acivity x Entity (Plan)
>> actedOnBehalfOf: Agent x Activity
>>
> I think this table would address the kind of navigation that wasn't available for my external reviewer.
> Though, adding it might become cluttered.
> I defer to your editorial decision.
>
> Feel free to close when you feel that "activity ended by activity" is easy enough to find.
>
> Regards,
> Tim
>
>
>> Figure 5 contains the required associated ender/starter from the association classes.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Luc
>>
>> On 11/07/12 21:25, Luc Moreau wrote:
>>> Hi Tim,
>>>
>>> I don't think there is a problem.
>>>
>>> Table 4 is introduced as follows:
>>>
>>>     While  not all PROV-DM relations are binary, they all involve two primary elements. Hence, <a href="#relations-at-a-glance">Table 4</a> indexes all relations according to their two primary elements (referred to as subject and object).
>>>
>>>
>>> wasStartedBy is primarily from an activity to an entity.
>>>
>>> Table 5 has the correct syntax wasStartedBy(id;a2,e,a1,t,attrs), including the starter activity a1.
>>>
>>> Luc
>>>
>>> On 11/07/12 18:12, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
>>>> PROV-ISSUE-450: DM tables "incomplete" (specifically: activity ending activity) [prov-dm]
>>>>
>>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/450
>>>>
>>>> Raised by: Timothy Lebo
>>>> On product: prov-dm
>>>>
>>>> During discussions with an external reviewer:
>>>>
>>>> He was looking for "activity ended by activity".
>>>>
>>>> He was looking at http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html today.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I pointed him to http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-End AND the phrase "or to an activity, known as ender ◊ that generated the trigger."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> His response:
>>>>
>>>> [[
>>>> Ah - I see that in the detailed description.  Shouldn't there be something in tables 4 and 5 as well?  It is also missing from fig 5.
>>>> ]]
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> -- 
>> Professor Luc Moreau
>> Electronics and Computer Science   tel:   +44 23 8059 4487
>> University of Southampton          fax:   +44 23 8059 2865
>> Southampton SO17 1BJ               email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk
>> United Kingdom                     http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm
>>
>>

-- 
Professor Luc Moreau
Electronics and Computer Science   tel:   +44 23 8059 4487
University of Southampton          fax:   +44 23 8059 2865
Southampton SO17 1BJ               email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk
United Kingdom                     http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm
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