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Re: PROV-ISSUE-450: DM tables "incomplete" (specifically: activity ending activity) [prov-dm]

From: Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu>
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 11:43:24 -0400
Cc: "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Message-Id: <504FEA31-5CEC-48D7-9FB0-B09BA5D08743@rpi.edu>
To: Luc Moreau <l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Luc,

On Sep 4, 2012, at 11:32 AM, Luc Moreau wrote:

> Hi Tim,
> 
> Can we try and reach agreement on this issue?
> 
> Table 4: is about primary elements. So no change required here.
> 
> Should we consider Table 4(bis), which is about secondary elements.
> In a first approximation, it would contain the following entries:
> 
> wasStartedBy: Activity x Activity (starter)
> wasEndedBy: Activity x Activity (ender)
> wasDerivedFrom: Entity x Activity
> mentionOf: Entity x Entity(Bundle)
> wasAssociatedWith: Acivity x Entity (Plan)
> actedOnBehalfOf: Agent x Activity
> 

I think this table would address the kind of navigation that wasn't available for my external reviewer.
Though, adding it might become cluttered.
I defer to your editorial decision.

Feel free to close when you feel that "activity ended by activity" is easy enough to find.

Regards,
Tim


> 
> Figure 5 contains the required associated ender/starter from the association classes.
> 
> Cheers,
> Luc
> 
> On 11/07/12 21:25, Luc Moreau wrote:
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> I don't think there is a problem.
>> 
>> Table 4 is introduced as follows:
>> 
>>    While  not all PROV-DM relations are binary, they all involve two primary elements. Hence, <a href="#relations-at-a-glance">Table 4</a> indexes all relations according to their two primary elements (referred to as subject and object).
>> 
>> 
>> wasStartedBy is primarily from an activity to an entity.
>> 
>> Table 5 has the correct syntax wasStartedBy(id;a2,e,a1,t,attrs), including the starter activity a1.
>> 
>> Luc
>> 
>> On 11/07/12 18:12, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
>>> PROV-ISSUE-450: DM tables "incomplete" (specifically: activity ending activity) [prov-dm]
>>> 
>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/450
>>> 
>>> Raised by: Timothy Lebo
>>> On product: prov-dm
>>> 
>>> During discussions with an external reviewer:
>>> 
>>> He was looking for "activity ended by activity".
>>> 
>>> He was looking at http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html today.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I pointed him to http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-End AND the phrase "or to an activity, known as ender ◊ that generated the trigger."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> His response:
>>> 
>>> [[
>>> Ah - I see that in the detailed description.  Shouldn't there be something in tables 4 and 5 as well?  It is also missing from fig 5.
>>> ]]
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> 
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