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Re: prov: namespace terms for PROV-AQ

From: Graham Klyne <GK@ninebynine.org>
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 16:41:12 +0000
Message-ID: <509BE0A8.1020303@ninebynine.org>
To: Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu>
CC: W3C provenance WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Tim,

Thanks for clarifying.  I'll take a look at prov-aq.ttl/.owl when I've got the 
prov-aq document in something approaching final form.

(I assume one is generated from the other, so I can focus on either one?  I 
choose prov-aq.ttl.)

#g
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On 06/11/2012 14:48, Timothy Lebo wrote:
> Graham,
>
>
> On Nov 6, 2012, at 9:13 AM, Graham Klyne <GK@ninebynine.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm not sure where we ended up with regard to defining PROV-AQ terms in the prov: namespace.
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>
> We agreed to remove the AQ terms from prov-o.owl, and make a separate prov-aq.owl to define the terms from AQ.
> Then, all OWL files would be concatenated and made available at the PROV namespace (http://www.w3.org/ns/prov).
> The provenance of the concatenation would also be included when requesting the namespace.
> The mechanics have not been fully implemented, so this will take some collaboration to finish up.
>
>
>>   I see that there's a prov-aq.ttl (and .owl) file in the "paq" area of the provenance document repository (apparently created by Stephan), but it currently contains a lot of terms that are nothing to do with PROV-AQ (as well as a few that are).
>
> I dont' recall the details, but that might just be the last copy of PROV-O.owl before we took out the AQ terms.
> So, feel free to remove anything in prov-aq.ttl that is not from the AQ note.
>
>>
>> I also see that a number of PRPV-AQ properties are defined, along with annotations:
>>
>> :aq "http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/tip/paq/prov-aq.html#todo"^^xsd:anyURI ;
>> :category "access-and-query" ;
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> If you don't need those, then clean them out. They were part of the PROV-O annotations that guide the HTML cross reference generation code.
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>> Am I correct in surmising that this file is intended to provide the OWL descriptions of all terms introduced by PROV-AQ?
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> Yes.
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>> If so:
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>> How complete is this document believed to be?
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> Not sure. Relatively complete? :-)
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>> Can I assume that the ontology terms introduced here are final?
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> No.
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>> Are there any further changes that require PROV-AQ editor input?
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> It requires PROV-AQ editor review and guidance. We can help discuss and implement things if needed.
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>> How should I cite the ontology document (currently PROV-AQ references the PROV-O spec, but with PROV-AQ terms not described there, that does not seem like a useful thing to do)?
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> http://www.w3.org/TR/prov-o/ says:
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> [[
> The namespace for all PROV-O terms is http://www.w3.org/ns/prov#.
> The OWL encoding of the PROV Ontology is available here.
> ]]
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> Where "here" will become http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-o.owl
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> So, I suggest that AQ.html links to http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-aq.owl
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> Ivan is the gatekeeper for getting documents into http://www.w3.org/ns (via CVS)
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> It was decided that the OWL files NOT be in the /tr path because that would "freeze" them and it would be hard to update.
> But we have "free reign" in /ns.
>
> Regards,
> Tim
>
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