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Re: prov: namespace terms for PROV-AQ

From: Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu>
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 23:07:10 -0500
Cc: W3C provenance WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Message-Id: <E7385347-2030-448F-8576-2D269502C55A@rpi.edu>
To: Graham Klyne <GK@ninebynine.org>

On Nov 8, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Graham Klyne <GK@ninebynine.org> wrote:

> Tim,
> 
> Thanks for clarifying.  I'll take a look at prov-aq.ttl/.owl when I've got the prov-aq document in something approaching final form.
> 
> (I assume one is generated from the other, so I can focus on either one?  I choose prov-aq.ttl.)

ttl prov:wasDerivedFrom owl

but they're equivalent, so work from the one you wish.

-Tim

> 
> #g
> --
> 
> On 06/11/2012 14:48, Timothy Lebo wrote:
>> Graham,
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 6, 2012, at 9:13 AM, Graham Klyne <GK@ninebynine.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure where we ended up with regard to defining PROV-AQ terms in the prov: namespace.
>> 
>> 
>> We agreed to remove the AQ terms from prov-o.owl, and make a separate prov-aq.owl to define the terms from AQ.
>> Then, all OWL files would be concatenated and made available at the PROV namespace (http://www.w3.org/ns/prov).
>> The provenance of the concatenation would also be included when requesting the namespace.
>> The mechanics have not been fully implemented, so this will take some collaboration to finish up.
>> 
>> 
>>>  I see that there's a prov-aq.ttl (and .owl) file in the "paq" area of the provenance document repository (apparently created by Stephan), but it currently contains a lot of terms that are nothing to do with PROV-AQ (as well as a few that are).
>> 
>> I dont' recall the details, but that might just be the last copy of PROV-O.owl before we took out the AQ terms.
>> So, feel free to remove anything in prov-aq.ttl that is not from the AQ note.
>> 
>>> 
>>> I also see that a number of PRPV-AQ properties are defined, along with annotations:
>>> 
>>> :aq "http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/tip/paq/prov-aq.html#todo"^^xsd:anyURI ;
>>> :category "access-and-query" ;
>> 
>> 
>> If you don't need those, then clean them out. They were part of the PROV-O annotations that guide the HTML cross reference generation code.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Am I correct in surmising that this file is intended to provide the OWL descriptions of all terms introduced by PROV-AQ?
>> 
>> Yes.
>> 
>>> 
>>> If so:
>>> 
>>> How complete is this document believed to be?
>> 
>> Not sure. Relatively complete? :-)
>> 
>>> 
>>> Can I assume that the ontology terms introduced here are final?
>> 
>> No.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Are there any further changes that require PROV-AQ editor input?
>> 
>> 
>> It requires PROV-AQ editor review and guidance. We can help discuss and implement things if needed.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> How should I cite the ontology document (currently PROV-AQ references the PROV-O spec, but with PROV-AQ terms not described there, that does not seem like a useful thing to do)?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/prov-o/ says:
>> 
>> [[
>> The namespace for all PROV-O terms is http://www.w3.org/ns/prov#.
>> The OWL encoding of the PROV Ontology is available here.
>> ]]
>> 
>> Where "here" will become http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-o.owl
>> 
>> So, I suggest that AQ.html links to http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-aq.owl
>> 
>> Ivan is the gatekeeper for getting documents into http://www.w3.org/ns (via CVS)
>> 
>> It was decided that the OWL files NOT be in the /tr path because that would "freeze" them and it would be hard to update.
>> But we have "free reign" in /ns.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Tim
>> 
> 
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