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Re: additional PROV responses

From: Luc Moreau <l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 08:05:33 +0000
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To: "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
CC: "Freimuth, Robert, Ph.D." <Freimuth.Robert@mayo.edu>, Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
Hi all,

Following Bob's feedback, all the issues below are now closed.

A couple of comments are interleaved.

Regards,
Luc


On 10/31/2012 05:00 PM, Freimuth, Robert, Ph.D. wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> - 1.1.29ISSUE-524 (Bundle/Collection) 
> <http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ResponsesToPublicComments#ISSUE-524_.28Bundle.2FCollection.29> 
>
> Acknowledged
>
> - 1.1.30ISSUE-519 and ISSUE-523 (Influence Inheritance) 
> <http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ResponsesToPublicComments#ISSUE-519_and_ISSUE-523_.28Influence_Inheritance.29>
> Table 7 (in section 5.3.5) is very helpful.
> I'm not sure I saw a resolution to this point from 523:
> If all relations inherit from the abstract Influence relationship, 
> then all relations should inherit the attributes of Influence, 
> including ID and attributes (both optional) and the ID of the 
> influencee and influencer. The latter are not required in many 
> relations, so there seems to be a semantic inconsistency within the model.

This was addressed in this section, since we do not have inheritance here.
>
> - 1.1.31ISSUE-521 (Responsibility Activity) 
> <http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ResponsesToPublicComments#ISSUE-521_.28Responsibility_Activity.29>
> The first two points have been addressed.  The third point is based on 
> the notion of associations having temporal attributes, which has been 
> discussed elsewhere.
>
> - 1.1.34ISSUE-518 (PrimarySource) 
> <http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ResponsesToPublicComments#ISSUE-518_.28PrimarySource.29>
> Acknowledged
>
> - 1.1.35ISSUE-499 (Generation vs Activity) 
> <http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ResponsesToPublicComments#ISSUE-499_.28Generation_vs_Activity.29>
> Acknowledged. The addition of "instantaneous" to the DM is helpful.
>
> - 1.1.36ISSUE-529 (Empty Collection) 
> <http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ResponsesToPublicComments#ISSUE-529_.28Empty_Collection.29>
> I understand EmptyCollection is needed under the OWA, but I don't see 
> a use case for it.  If the working group needs to support the explicit 
> definition of an empty collection, then this is required.
Thanks.
> Regarding the notation of id and attributes, I misread the example.  
> The explanation clarified by understanding.
>
> - 1.1.39ISSUE-498 (Relation terminology) 
> <http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ResponsesToPublicComments#ISSUE-498_.28Relation_terminology.29>
> My comment attempted to point out that some people (maybe I'm the only 
> one) will be tempted to initially think about some concepts as 
> activities due to the terminology that is used to define them.  I fell 
> into this trap early on and it took me a while to work through it.  I 
> wanted the working group to review the relevant text from this 
> perspective; if that has been done, then I acknowledge the response to 
> my comment.

Thanks.
>
> - 1.1.41ISSUE-463 (Overall Feedback) 
> <http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ResponsesToPublicComments#ISSUE-463_.28Overall_Feedback.29>
> Thanks for reviewing the diagrams.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From:* pgroth@gmail.com [mailto:pgroth@gmail.com] *On Behalf Of
>     *Paul Groth
>     *Sent:* Saturday, October 27, 2012 2:54 AM
>     *To:* Freimuth, Robert, Ph.D.
>     *Cc:* public-prov-comments@w3.org
>     *Subject:* additional PROV responses
>
>     Dear Bob,
>
>     Again, thank you for your help with making PROV a better
>     specification. Below you'll find the last set of responses for the
>     various issues that you raised. Each issue is linked back to the
>     response. If you can provide an acknowledgement that our comment
>     is satisfactory or if not - why. As you know this is an important
>     part of the W3C process.
>
>     As before you can just list whether your response in a reply to
>     this email.
>
>     Thanks,
>     Paul
>
>
>     - 1.1.29ISSUE-524 (Bundle/Collection)
>     <http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ResponsesToPublicComments#ISSUE-524_.28Bundle.2FCollection.29>
>
>
>     - 1.1.30ISSUE-519 and ISSUE-523 (Influence Inheritance)
>     <http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ResponsesToPublicComments#ISSUE-519_and_ISSUE-523_.28Influence_Inheritance.29>
>
>     - 1.1.31ISSUE-521 (Responsibility Activity)
>     <http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ResponsesToPublicComments#ISSUE-521_.28Responsibility_Activity.29>
>
>     - 1.1.34ISSUE-518 (PrimarySource)
>     <http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ResponsesToPublicComments#ISSUE-518_.28PrimarySource.29>
>
>     - 1.1.35ISSUE-499 (Generation vs Activity)
>     <http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ResponsesToPublicComments#ISSUE-499_.28Generation_vs_Activity.29>
>
>     - 1.1.36ISSUE-529 (Empty Collection)
>     <http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ResponsesToPublicComments#ISSUE-529_.28Empty_Collection.29>
>
>     - 1.1.39ISSUE-498 (Relation terminology)
>     <http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ResponsesToPublicComments#ISSUE-498_.28Relation_terminology.29>
>
>     - 1.1.41ISSUE-463 (Overall Feedback)
>     <http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ResponsesToPublicComments#ISSUE-463_.28Overall_Feedback.29>
>

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