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Re: Proposal on PROV-DM reorganization

From: Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu>
Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 11:51:00 -0400
Cc: Paolo Missier <paolo.missier@newcastle.ac.uk>, Provenance Working Group WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Message-Id: <5C7B633E-F19E-4727-9590-AAB1083C2820@rpi.edu>
To: Paolo Ncl <Paolo.Missier@ncl.ac.uk>

On May 22, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Paolo Ncl wrote:

> Tim
> 
> No, the pattern is multiple actedonBehalfOf relations chained together, possibly with one or more associatedWith relations hanging off the chain and connecting to activities. Something that you may want to write a specific query for as it may tell you more of the story than a relation taken in isolation.

Thanks. I'd agree with that. But I think "patterns" should stay out of DM and end up (if anywhere) in the Best Practices.

-Tim

> 
> P.Missier - paolo.missier@ncl.ac.uk
> 
> On 22 May 2012, at 08:00, Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On May 22, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Paolo Missier wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> On 5/22/12 6:42 AM, Timothy Lebo wrote:
>>>> On May 22, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Paolo Missier wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Graham
>>>>> ...
>>>> 
>>>>> The UML diagrams in the document are not patterns. They define a data model, which consists of classes and associations. These are all primitives, including the extensions. /To my mind/ :-), patterns belong in a "provenance cookbook" and describe appropriate combinations of classes and associations as I tried to express earlier (above).
>>>> +1
>>>> 
>>>> -Tim
>>> to clarify the distinction in my mind:  "association" and "responsibility" are relations (or associations), "chain of responsibility" is a pattern.
>> 
>> What about Attribution?
>> 
>> By "chain of responsibility", do you mean actedOnBehalfOf?
>> If so, I disagree. The responsibility between two agents is a relation just as "association" and "attribution" are between an agent and an Activity or Entity, respectively.
>> 
>> I'm a bit confused.
>> 
>> -Tim
>> 
>>> 
>>> -Paolo
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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