- From: Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu>
- Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:50:42 -0400
- To: Graham Klyne <graham.klyne@zoo.ox.ac.uk>
- Cc: "public-prov-wg@w3.org Group WG" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Graham,
On Jul 10, 2012, at 1:34 PM, Graham Klyne wrote:
> On 10/07/2012 17:35, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
>>
>
> I think there's a bit of a gap in the family of specifications if the mapping isn't clear as part of the REC set. I thought the whole idea was that PROV-DM/PROV-N defined a technology neutral model, and PROV-O was the RDF/OWL realization of that model. For that to work, we have to know what are the precise correspondences.
>
> I don't think we need to describe a mechanical translation process, which I think contributes to the bulk of the wiki page. I think a table of PROV-N forms and corresponding RDF forms would cover it. Maybe as an appendix of the PROV-O document, or woven into the cross-reference?
Is it not "woven into the cross-reference" already?
http://aquarius.tw.rpi.edu/prov-wg/prov-o
There are 77 links from prov-o to DM in the cross reference (these are derived from the annotations within the OWL file itself)
bash-3.2$ grep "as in <a" prov-o.html
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Activity">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-agent">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-entity">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-delegation">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-End">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Start">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Usage">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Association">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-attribution">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Derivation">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Generation">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Communication">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-bundle-entity">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-collection">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-collection-membership">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-collection-membership">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-attribute-location">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-agent">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-agent">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-agent">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-alternate">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-mention">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-attribute-location">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Generation">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Generation">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-collection">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-primary-source">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-influence">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Invalidation">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Invalidation">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-mention">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-specialization">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-attribute-value">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-End">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Invalidation">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-quotation">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-revision">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Start">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Association">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-attribution">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Communication">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-delegation">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Derivation">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-End">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Generation">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-influence">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Invalidation">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-collection-membership">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Association">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-quotation">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-revision">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-attribute-role">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-primary-source">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Start">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Usage">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Activity">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Generation">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Association">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-attribute-role">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Usage">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-influence">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Association">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-attribution">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Communication">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-delegation">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Derivation">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-End">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Generation">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-influence">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Invalidation">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-collection-membership">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-quotation">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-revision">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-primary-source">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Start">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Usage">prov-dm</a> </dd>
as in <a title="prov-dm" href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-influence">prov-dm</a> </dd>
Regards,
Tim
>
> I haven't previously been following the PROV-O work so closely, because I thought plenty of others were doing that, so didn't notice this previously.
>
> I think it's a potentially serious issue that we need to consider: why are we producing multiple REC-track specifications if we are not being quite clear about how they relate to each other? I'd be surprised if this isn't picked up in last-call -- if it isn't, I'd be suspicious that we are not getting enough serious external review.
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