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Re: PROV-ISSUE-44 (shortcuts): Introduce widely used provenance concepts as shortcuts in the model [Conceptual Model]

From: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:12:44 +0100
Message-ID: <4F15499C.3050100@vu.nl>
To: Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
CC: "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Hi Luc,

I think there has been some discussion of this: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2011Dec/0109.html

I think wasSummaryOf should be removed. I can raise this as a separate 
issue.

I agree that ISSUE-44 should be closed.

Regards,
Paul

Luc Moreau wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> This issue has been open for a while now. Your original suggestions have
> been incorporated.
>
> Unfortunately, very little debate has occurred about these. We don't
> have a mechanism to
> decide whether a relation should be included in PROV-DM or whether it
> belongs to an application
> specific extension. We don't know either when we have reached a
> "complete" set of relations.
>
> Nevertheless, I propose to close this issue.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Luc
>
> On 07/23/2011 05:21 PM, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
>> PROV-ISSUE-44 (shortcuts): Introduce widely used provenance concepts as shortcuts in the model [Conceptual Model]
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>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/44
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>> Raised by: Paul Groth
>> On product: Conceptual Model
>>
>> There are a number of commonly used provenance relations in particular for the web that are not in the model. For practical use and uptake, it would be good to have definitions of these in the provenance model. These concepts should be defined in terms of the already existing "core" concepts. Below I list several and their definitions along with some justification for their introduction. Note, what these allow are simple provenance assertions that are compatible with the more complex model that we have been devising.
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>> * isQuoteOf
>> A quote. Specifically, it represents a characterized entity that is part of another characterized entity.
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>> A constrained version of isRevisionOf
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>> see http://daringfireball.net/2011/07/attribution_and_credit
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>> * isAttributedTo
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>> Represents that a characterized identity was the product of an agent or can be attributed to that agent.
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>> A constrained version of isDerivedFrom
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>> see http://www.buzzmachine.com/2010/06/27/the-importance-of-provenance/
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>> * isSummaryOf
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>> Represents a characterized entity that is a synopsis or abbreviation of another entity.
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>> constrained version of isDerivedFrom
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>> * original-source
>> Represents a characterized entity in which another characterized entity first appeared.
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>> A constrained version of isDerivedFrom
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>> see http://www.google.com/support/news_pub/bin/answer.py?answer=191283
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