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Re: PROV-ISSUE-183 (prov-dm-identifiers): identifiers in prov-dm [prov-dm]

From: Jim McCusker <mccusj@rpi.edu>
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:04:53 -0500
Message-ID: <CAAtgn=Re=CwOCQ_rgMQxOWxiCHsexOY7pLvH-8RS777JT=bKTA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk>
Cc: Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, public-prov-wg@w3.org
My point exactly. Luc has allayed my fears.

Jim

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes <
soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 17:27, Jim McCusker <mccusj@rpi.edu> wrote:
> > I'm not sure why this is a requirement. This greatly complicates
> > representations in RDF. Rather than saying:
> >
> > :writingThisEmail prov:wasControlledBy rpi:JimMcCusker.
> >
> > I would have to say:
> >
> > :writingThisEmail prov:wasControlledBy :jim.
> > :jim prov:identifier rpi:JimMcCusker.
>
>
> no, rpi:JimMcCusker is already a characterisation of a thing in the
> world (you), and hence is also an entity.  You are a person, not a
> URI, but rpi:JimMcCusker is one (characterised) way to talk about you
> as a person. This characterisation - even if not expressed - will
> always be bounded, for instance it probably does not characterize
> "you" before you were conceived, and it probably does not include the
> car you are driving today.
>
> Basically any existing URI can be said to be an entity, because by
> their nature they characterize something. (This is also an argument
> that nothing can be disjoint from prov:Entity - but that's a separate
> issue)
>
>
> --
> Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team
> School of Computer Science
> The University of Manchester
>
>


-- 
Jim McCusker
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Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics
Yale School of Medicine
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Tetherless World Constellation
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