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Re: actions related to collections

From: Satya Sahoo <satya.sahoo@case.edu>
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 16:33:11 -0400
Message-ID: <CAOMwk6yeZZYmtu_z5yVBi=dLUpDAwG2W8+=Q=n7381hCy6hNEw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Cc: Provenance Working Group WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Hi Luc,

>
> Do I understand correctly that those two collections do not change: a cell
> line has a given number of cells, and the cohort involves a set of patients.
>
> A cohort remains static during the period of study. The number of cells
may increase (by cell division) or decrease (by cell death).

Thanks.

Best,
Satya


> So, yes, I understand that removal/insertion are not necessary for such
> static collections.
>
> Regards,
> Luc
>
>
> On 18/04/12 17:35, Satya Sahoo wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> The issue I had raised last week is that collection is an important
> provenance construct, but the assumption of only key-value pair based
> collection is too narrow and the relations derivedByInsertionFrom,
> Derivation-by-Removal are over specifications that are not required.
>
>  I have collected the following examples for collection, which only
> require the definition of the collection in DM5 (collection of entities)
> and they don't have (a) a key-value structure, and (b)
> derivedByInsertionFrom, derivedByRemovalFrom relations are not needed:
> 1. Cell line is a collection of cells used in many biomedical experiments.
> The provenance of the cell line (as a collection) include, who submitted
> the cell line, what method was used to authenticate the cell line, when was
> the given cell line contaminated? The provenance of the cells in a cell
> line include, what is the source of the cells (e.g. organism)?
>
>  2. A patient cohort is a collection of patients satisfying some
> constraints for a research study. The provenance of the cohort include,
> what eligibility criteria were used to identify the cohort, when was the
> cohort identified? The provenance of the patients in a cohort may include
> their health provider etc.
>
>  Hope this helps our discussion.
>
>  Thanks.
>
>  Best,
> Satya
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Jun and Satya,
>>
>> Following today's call, ACTION-76 [1] and ACTION-77 [2] were raised
>> against you, as we agreed.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Luc
>>
>> [1] https://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/actions/76
>> [2] https://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/actions/77
>>
>>
>
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