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Re: actions related to collections

From: Jim McCusker <mccusj@rpi.edu>
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:12:12 -0400
Message-ID: <CAAtgn=TOgeOxGJr3pEWbCQz318AYpO0G9bnHR1c8kZ_43yrEYA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Jun Zhao <jun.zhao@zoo.ox.ac.uk>
Cc: public-prov-wg@w3.org
I think a set of key-value pairs is what's known as a map or dictionary. A
collection is a set of things with a defined membership. In OWL it would
probably be represented as an enumerated class.


On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Jun Zhao <jun.zhao@zoo.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

> Dear all,
> I concur with what Satya wrote. And the example I had in mind is
> collection type of entities on the blog sphere of the Web.
> As we all know SIOC is a widely used vocabulary to describe entities in
> the online community sites, like blogs, wikis, etc. It has the concept of
> sioc:Container, which is defined as "a high-level concept used to group
> content Items together". The relationships between a sioc:Container and the
> sioc:Items or sioc:Posts that belong to it are described using
> sioc:container_of and sioc:has_container properties.
> The provenance of a sioc:Container could be who is/are responsible for the
> container, who created this container, and when.
> The provenance of a sioc:Post could include when the posted was published,
> when it was modified, by whom, based on which other posts, document or data.
> As you see, I am struggling to see how the key-value pair kind of
> structure could play in the above simple scenario. But please correct me if
> I am wrong.
> HTH,
> Jun
> On 18/04/2012 18:35, Satya Sahoo wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> The issue I had raised last week is that collection is an important
>> provenance construct, but the assumption of only key-value pair based
>> collection is too narrow and the relations derivedByInsertionFrom,
>> Derivation-by-Removal are over specifications that are not required.
>> I have collected the following examples for collection, which only require
>> the definition of the collection in DM5 (collection of entities) and they
>> don't have (a) a key-value structure, and (b) derivedByInsertionFrom,
>> derivedByRemovalFrom relations are not needed:
>> 1. Cell line is a collection of cells used in many biomedical experiments.
>> The provenance of the cell line (as a collection) include, who submitted
>> the cell line, what method was used to authenticate the cell line, when
>> was
>> the given cell line contaminated? The provenance of the cells in a cell
>> line include, what is the source of the cells (e.g. organism)?
>> 2. A patient cohort is a collection of patients satisfying some
>> constraints
>> for a research study. The provenance of the cohort include, what
>> eligibility criteria were used to identify the cohort, when was the cohort
>> identified? The provenance of the patients in a cohort may include their
>> health provider etc.
>> Hope this helps our discussion.
>> Thanks.
>> Best,
>> Satya
>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Luc Moreau<L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.**uk<L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
>> >wrote:
>>> Hi Jun and Satya,
>>> Following today's call, ACTION-76 [1] and ACTION-77 [2] were raised
>>> against you, as we agreed.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Luc
>>> [1] https://www.w3.org/2011/prov/****track/actions/76<https://www.w3.org/2011/prov/**track/actions/76>
>>> <https://www.**w3.org/2011/prov/track/**actions/76<https://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/actions/76>
>>> >
>>> [2] https://www.w3.org/2011/prov/****track/actions/77<https://www.w3.org/2011/prov/**track/actions/77>
>>> <https://www.**w3.org/2011/prov/track/**actions/77<https://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/actions/77>
>>> >

Jim McCusker
Programmer Analyst
Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics
Yale School of Medicine
james.mccusker@yale.edu | (203) 785-6330

PhD Student
Tetherless World Constellation
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
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