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Re: PROV-ISSUE-222 (used-objectproperty): Datatype property for used? [Ontology]

From: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:31:20 +0000
Message-ID: <CAJCyKRoNm3WSpr3vuZLc9vck3yFDnC6WHcPHDtPu3dXBo3dHHQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Stephan Zednik <zednis@rpi.edu>
Cc: "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Hi Stephan,

Yeah the example doesn't use prov:value. I'm just saying that the kind
of guidance you give below we should think about giving with respect
to provenance. This is the kind of simple stuff that's very helpful
and also eases things for interoperability.

cheers
Paul

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Stephan Zednik <zednis@rpi.edu> wrote:
>
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Paul Groth wrote:
>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> We actually ended up using the version in github for our files. I was
>> just thinking there needs to be a way to put other string describing
>> the entity... in this case a file.
>
> Describing, naming, or identifying?
>
>> We use rdfs:label.
>
> Which is what I would use for a name.
>
>> But I wondered
>> if we should suggest some best practice here. In particular, this was
>> a problem in the provenance challenge where no one new where to look
>> for names and such.
>
> I would recommend as best practice to use rdfs:label for a name, dc:identifier for an identifier, and dc:description for a description.
>
> I would not recommend using prov:value to mean a name.
>
> Also, unless I am missing something in the example, it does not currently use prov:value, nor do I see where prov:value as a name would logically be used.
>
> --Stephan
>
>>
>> cheers
>> Paul
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Jim McCusker <mccusj@rpi.edu> wrote:
>>> For filenames, I would figure that one should use a file:// URI. Are there
>>> any reasons not to?
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I've place my example at
>>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Eg-27-small-command-line
>>>>
>>>> Essentially, we have the name of a zip file that is associated with an
>>>> Entity. The question is what is the recommended way to associate that
>>>> value with the entity.
>>>>
>>>> Luc's suggestion is prov:value.
>>>>
>>>> I'm inclined to suggest that this also apply to activities as well....
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jim McCusker
>>> Programmer Analyst
>>> Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics
>>> Yale School of Medicine
>>> james.mccusker@yale.edu | (203) 785-6330
>>> http://krauthammerlab.med.yale.edu
>>>
>>> PhD Student
>>> Tetherless World Constellation
>>> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
>>> mccusj@cs.rpi.edu
>>> http://tw.rpi.edu
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Dr. Paul Groth (p.t.groth@vu.nl)
>> http://www.few.vu.nl/~pgroth/
>> Assistant Professor
>> Knowledge Representation & Reasoning Group
>> Artificial Intelligence Section
>> Department of Computer Science
>> VU University Amsterdam
>>
>>
>



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Dr. Paul Groth (p.t.groth@vu.nl)
http://www.few.vu.nl/~pgroth/
Assistant Professor
Knowledge Representation & Reasoning Group
Artificial Intelligence Section
Department of Computer Science
VU University Amsterdam
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