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RE: Is _this_ what is meant by "Entity"?

From: Myers, Jim <MYERSJ4@rpi.edu>
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 13:35:09 +0000
To: Graham Klyne <GK@ninebynine.org>, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, W3C provenance WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <3131E7DF4CD2D94287870F5A931EFC23017405@EX14MB2.win.rpi.edu>
Luc may have a different perspective, but I think your description of e0 may not capture what's needed:

>   entity(e0, [ type: "File", location: "/shared/crime.txt", creator: "Alice" ])

>might be interpreted as asserting that the thing denoted by "e0" is a file whose
>file system location is "/shared/crime.txt", and which was created by "Alice".

e0 is a characterization of a file as a file-in-a-fixed-location - e0 is the file at location /shared/crime.txt. The thing - the file currently  at /shared/crime.txt is ambiguously defined in terms of time and processing - if I swap new content to /shared/crime.txt - has the thing moved or has it changed in place. For e0, its clear - e0 can't move. I could also have an entity with fixed content (whatever is at /shared/crime.txt now) which would have moved (or an entity representing the file with fixed location and content that would have ended/been used by the swap PE). 

Is this consistent with your interpretation? (With Luc's?) To me an entity is an asserted interpretation of how a thing is scoped with respect to time/processing...

The fact that a file was moved from location A to B can be asserted by asserting entities that characterize the movable file as file-in-location-A and file-in-location-B and asserting that file-in-location-B wasGeneratedBy a move PE that used file-in-location-A. 

(If useful, one can also characterize the mobile file as well (perhaps as file-with-fixed-content) and talk about its provenance as well (the series of edits that created it from other fixed-content-files ignoring how those files might have been moved around) and even link the descriptions (via IVPof/complementOf).)

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