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Re: PROV-ISSUE-30 (name-for-bob): What name do we use for the BOB construct? [Conceptual Model]

From: Khalid Belhajjame <Khalid.Belhajjame@cs.man.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:43:14 +0100
Message-ID: <4E292A12.6060108@cs.man.ac.uk>
To: Luc Moreau <l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
CC: public-prov-wg@w3.org

The term "Snapshot" was suggested some time ago, and it seems that 
several people did like it.
We can also use the term "EntitySnapshot".

What do you think?

khalid

On 21/07/2011 20:33, Luc Moreau wrote:
> Hi Khalid,
> OK.  This said we have over 20 occurrences of "characterized entity" 
> in the text.
>
> We can't simply use the "expansion" everywhere. Having some 
> terminology is desirable.
>
> Do you have a suggestion?
>
> We could also go for a typographic difference:
>   BOB -> CharacterizedEntity
> and we keep 'characterized entity' elsewhere.
>
> Luc
>
> On 21/07/2011 20:27, Khalid Belhajjame wrote:
>>
>> Hi Luc,
>>
>> I guess I used the wrong term, "interchangeable". I guess that what I 
>> meant is that "Characterized Entity" can be considered as a candidate 
>> to replace "BOB". Of course, in that case, we will need to avoid the 
>> usage of the the term "characterized entity" in the core of the 
>> definition. E.g., we can use the following definition:
>>
>> A "Characterized Entity" is a description of the situation of an 
>> entity in the world.
>>
>> Or something in these lines.
>>
>> Thanks, khalid
>>
>> On 21/07/2011 19:54, Luc Moreau wrote:
>>> Hi Khalid,
>>>
>>> As far as I know, they are *not* interchangeable. One is the 
>>> language construct, the other is "in the world".
>>>
>>> cf. definition:
>>>
>>> ABOBrepresents an identifiable
>>>
>>> characterized entity.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Should we go for "Characterized Entity", we need a typographic
>>>
>>> convention to distinguish between
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> the construct and the world-thing, otherwise, the reader will never
>>>
>>> know whether this is language construct
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> or not.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Luc
>>>
>>> On 21/07/2011 19:45, Khalid Belhajjame wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In the Provenance Model initial draft, the terms "Bob" and 
>>>> "characterized entity" are used interchangeably.
>>>> Characterized entity seems then to be a candidate for replacing BOB.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, khalid
>>>>
>>>> On 21/07/2011 19:30, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
>>>>> PROV-ISSUE-30 (name-for-bob): What name do we use for the BOB construct? [Conceptual Model]
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/30
>>>>>
>>>>> Raised by: Luc Moreau
>>>>> On product: Conceptual Model
>>>>>
>>>>> How do we call the construct referred to as BOB.  "BOB" was introduced as a placeholder at F2F1. Before F2F1, we use to refer to it as thing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>      
>>>>
>>
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