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Re: PROV-ISSUE-7: trying to reach consensus on derivation (deadline: Wednesday midnight GMT)

From: Daniel Garijo <dgarijo@delicias.dia.fi.upm.es>
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 04:14:32 +0200
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To: Satya Sahoo <satya.sahoo@case.edu>
Cc: Simon Miles <simon.miles@kcl.ac.uk>, Provenance Working Group WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
+1, taking into account Satya's comments and shorter definition.
Apologies for the late response.
Best,
Daniel

2011/6/29 Satya Sahoo <satya.sahoo@case.edu>

> +1
>
> Best,
> Satya
>
> Assistant Professor
> Division of Medical Informatics, School of Medicine
> & EECS Department, School of Engineering
> Case Western Reserve University
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 5:44 AM, Simon Miles <simon.miles@kcl.ac.uk>wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> (as you might expect)
>>
>> On 29 June 2011 08:26, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > No response to this. Can you express your support or not in the usual
>> way?
>> >
>> > I have altered slightly the definition to take Satya's input into
>> > consideration
>> >
>> > PROPOSED: Derivation represents how stuff is transformed from, created
>> from,
>> > or
>> > affected by other stuff. A thing B is derived from a thing A if the
>> > values of some invariant properties of B are at least partially
>> > determined by the values of some invariant properties of A.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Luc
>> >
>> > On 06/27/2011 01:48 PM, Luc Moreau wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > We are now 10 days away from the F2F meeting. We should try to reach
>> > consensus on a few definitions.
>> > Last week [1], Paul suggested a definition for Derivation, and this was
>> > followed by a simplified
>> > definition by Simon [2], now on the wiki [3]. I copy the text here for
>> your
>> > convenience.
>> >
>> > PROPOSED: Derivation represents how stuff is transformed from or
>> affected by
>> > other stuff. A thing B is derived from a thing A if the values of some
>> > invariant properties of B are at least partially determined by the
>> values of
>> > some invariant properties of A.
>> >
>> > We are trying to get consensus on a natural language definition for this
>> > concept. It may be revisited later by the team
>> > dealing with the formalization.
>> >
>> > Can you express your support, or alternative, for this definition? We
>> would
>> > like to
>> > reach consensus by Wednesday midnight GMT.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Luc
>> >
>> > [1]
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2011Jun/0338.html
>> > [2]
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2011Jun/0361.html
>> > [3]
>> >
>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ConceptDerivation#Definition_by_Simon.2C_a_revision_of_Luc.27s_above
>> >
>> > --
>> > Professor Luc Moreau
>> > Electronics and Computer Science   tel:   +44 23 8059 4487
>> > University of Southampton          fax:   +44 23 8059 2865
>> > Southampton SO17 1BJ               email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk
>> > United Kingdom                     http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Professor Luc Moreau
>> > Electronics and Computer Science   tel:   +44 23 8059 4487
>> > University of Southampton          fax:   +44 23 8059 2865
>> > Southampton SO17 1BJ               email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk
>> > United Kingdom                     http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm
>> >
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr Simon Miles
>> Lecturer, Department of Informatics
>> Kings College London, WC2R 2LS, UK
>> +44 (0)20 7848 1166
>>
>>
>
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