Re: PFWG-ISSUE-663: Presentational children of some widgets have doclick actions if make presentational who handles the click [ARIA 1.1 Implementation Guide]

Hi, Rich.


On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>
wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> I just saw this. Please make all posts to the public pfwg list (on cc
> above). This list is member confidential. I seldom look at this list any
> more. I happened to look out here and saw this post. We are supposed to
> operate in the open with the new charter. :-)
>

If answer is supposed to be on public channel then would it be good to make
ISSUE notification email sent to public list as well? Actually I just
answer email to all not checking for specific addressee.


>
> Yes, it would solve the problem if we were to expose the item in the tree.
> In fact, we have a requirement that presentational items be exposed if they
> have tabindex applied (are focusable). By exposing a doClick function this
> would map to an API function that allows the AT to click the item. For IA2
> this would be an accessible action - similar to if we had a doClick() on a
> focusable functions.
>
>
> .... so, if we have clickable children that are marked presentational this
> should be considered an error condition and we should expose the
> corresponding accessible to the AT.
>

ok, sounds good. How to bring this resolution into the spec?


>
> Please make sure you make these changes to SVG as well.
>

do you talk about implementation, right? or something that should addressed
in the spec?


>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Rich
>
>
> Rich Schwerdtfeger
>
> [image: Inactive hide details for Alexander Surkov ---06/13/2014 08:15:19
> AM---Hi, Rich. Would it solve the problem if they were expose]Alexander
> Surkov ---06/13/2014 08:15:19 AM---Hi, Rich. Would it solve the problem if
> they were exposed in the tree? Thanks.
>
> From: Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexander@gmail.com>
> To: Protocols and Formats Working Group <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>
> Date: 06/13/2014 08:15 AM
> Subject: Re: PFWG-ISSUE-663: Presentational children of some widgets have
>  doclick actions if make presentational who handles the click [ARIA 1.1
>  Implementation Guide]
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>
> Hi, Rich. Would it solve the problem if they were exposed in the tree?
> Thanks.
> Alex.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Protocols and Formats Working Group Issue
> Tracker <*sysbot+tracker@w3.org* <sysbot+tracker@w3.org>> wrote:
>
>    PFWG-ISSUE-663: Presentational children of some widgets have doclick
>    actions if make presentational who handles the click [ARIA 1.1
>    Implementation Guide]
>
> *https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/663*
>    <https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/663>
>
>    Raised by: Richard Schwerdtfeger
>    On product: ARIA 1.1 Implementation Guide
>
>    There are time where the author puts a doClick on a child of an
>    element with role="button". We should look at this for presentational
>    children. This was brought up by Freedom Scienfic
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