Re: APA Personalization Task Force Teleconference - Monday August 12, 2019

Hi Charles, Lisa, colleagues,

Sadly, I will be unable to join you on Monday, as I am training (again).
Regarding Lisa's July 29 email:

*If we are agreeing on the basic concept of using the bic numbers*

FWIW, *I* think that is a good path forward, and support that approach.



*1. Items that speed up the authoring process and make it more scalable can
be moved to a separate module. This could  included:*


   - *terms (or more terms) that replace very common concepts*
   - *a way to associate new symbol(s) with the reference mechanism in a
   mapping file (phase 2 for scalability for authors if the content provider
   is using their own symbols?)*
   - *a way to reference a mapping file to use in the content (phase 2 for
   scalability for authors if the content provider is using their own
   symbols?)*

I think a two-step approach like this makes more sense. While I agree and
would like to see a more "common list of usable terms", any
internationalization concern there needs to be explored in more detail. I'd
suggest this be a topic for discussion at TPAC if you can find Richard
Ishida. A formal or informal (hallway chat) discussion should be pursued.

*2. Are we happy with the term data-symbol (I get the impression that we
are) Could data-symbol merge this with data-action ?*

I am happy with "data-symbol" going forward.

Lisa, I am not sure what you mean by "merge". If the question is, could we
merge action symbols in such a way that we wouldn't need to use 2
attributes, then maybe... I think that would also be a phase 2 discussion,
because programatically identifying actions is a different "ask" than
substituting symbols for text, although I do see an overlap there.
Were you suggesting that the taxonomy terms for action also be mapped to
Bliss BIC numbers?


*3. we also have to check any patent issues involved with bliss.*

Indeed, and while I think we all believe we're in the clear here, a more
formal verification as part of our emergent Recommendation would add value
and weight.

JF


On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 10:13 AM Charles LaPierre <charlesl@benetech.org>
wrote:

> Hello all,
> Below is the agenda for Mondays meeting.
> We would like to have a final decision on what will go into the
> specification for Symbols initially and what will be put off until a future
> revision . Lisa wrote an email on July 29th discussing this
> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/2019Jul/0021.html>.
> If you all can review this email prior to our meeting Monday.  For those
> unable to attend Mondays meeting if you can email us your comments,
> concerns or support that will be very helpful.
>
> We will also have two guests Peter and Ori to discuss Symbol testing.
>
> agenda+ Finalize Symbol for module 1 and what goes into an advance module
> (for optimization/speedup etc.) review email from Lisa on July 29th
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/2019Jul/0021.html
> agenda+ Close on the research project (Peter and Ori joining) User
> Testing after AAAT (last week in Aug) want them to discuss what the plan is.
>
> Research Project Summary
>
> 3 options:
> 1. No enhancements just text
> 2. Machine generated (text to pictures) (IBM tool possibly others)
> 3. Manually added symbols (Bliss / user chosen
>
> 2 groups of testers
> Symbol users / non symbol users but have a cognitive disability
>
>
>
> *​**The  teleconference information is at :* *call info - personalization*
> <https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_personalization>
>
>
>
>
> Time:
> 10 am Eastern time
> 5 pm IS
> 3 pm UK time
> 4 pm CET
>
> IRC access
> An IRC (Internet Relay Chat) channel will be available during the call.
> (The server is  irc.w3.org ,The port number is 6665 )
>
> IRC made simple:
> IRC is like our chat room. You can join us on IRC simply by clicking on
> http://irc.w3.org/?channels=personalization
>
> The channel is #personalization
> You can write any name as a nickname
>
> Now you can chat while we talk.
>
> *Resources and useful links*
>
>
>    - our home page
>    - Teleconferences of the Working Group and its task forces (also see meeting
>    minutes
>    <https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/task-forces/personalization/minutes>); Face
>    to face meetings (also see face to face meeting pages
>    <https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/task-forces/personalization/wiki/Meetings>
>    );
>
>
>
>    - mailing list archives
>    <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/>
>    - IRCC discussion on the #personalization IRC channel, used largely
>    for minute-taking;
>    - Personalization Semantics 1.0
>    <https://www.w3.org/TR/personalization-semantics-1.0/> (Personalization
>    Semantics 1.0 Editors' Draft
>    <https://w3c.github.io/personalization-semantics/>). See also the Personalization
>    Semantics Task Force GitHub repository
>    <https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/>.
>    - Wiki <https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/task-forces/personalization/wiki/>;
>    - Web-Based Surveys (WBS) <https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/101569/>;
>    - personalization-semantics source repository issue tracker
>    <https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/issues>.
>    - http://diagramcenter.org/personalizedlearning.html
>
>
>
> WCAG SC
> https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/6
>
>
> https://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/support-personalization_ISSUE-6/guidelines/sc/21/purpose-of-controls.html
>
>
> https://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/support-personalization_ISSUE-6/guidelines/sc/21/contextual-information.html
>
>
> Demo
> https://github.com/ayelet-seeman/coga.personalisation
> https://rawgit.com/ayelet-seeman/coga.personalisation/demo/conactUs.html
>
>
> * Some helpful Scribing and Participation Tips
> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/Teleconference_cheat_sheet
>
>
> - For more on W3C use of IRC see:
> http://www.w3.org/Project/IRC/
>
>
>

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