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Re: Plain textual bodies - summary of arguments and possible solutions

From: Paolo Ciccarese <paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:27:05 -0500
Message-ID: <CAFPX2kB2=zRi8YoyCpwVgXtR=kUYK7HW1su3W4kwbJC490HpYg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Robert Bolick <robert.bolick@gmail.com>
Cc: Bernhard Haslhofer <bernhard.haslhofer@cornell.edu>, public-openannotation@w3.org
Dear Robert,
more work has to be done. Certainly one of our goals is to be aligned with
the eBook recommendations:

We will be participating at the workshop:
"eBooks: Great Expectations for Web Standards":
with the idea of presenting OA and bringing up those issues that are of
interest for us (including those you have listed).


On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:52 AM, Robert Bolick <robert.bolick@gmail.com>wrote:

> Apologies to all for the dumb questions from a publishing layman:  does
> this approach work for ebooks in the same format and for ebooks in multiple
> formats?   That is, will the model enable ebook designers and ebook system
> developers to offer users the ability to annotate any aspect of the work
> and share the annotation with another user such that the other user is able
> to see the shared annotation attached to, or pointing to, the annotated
> target in his/her version of the ebook?
> The question applies to all downloaded ebook-like documents and formats.
>  Publishers of fiction, non-fiction, educational works, professional and
> academic works, etc., will be looking for open and practical ways for
> readers to place, track and locate annotations within a single instance of
> a work and, when sharing or transferring annotations, across multiple
> instances of a work.
> Cheers,
> BobB
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 4:51 AM, Bernhard Haslhofer <
> bernhard.haslhofer@cornell.edu> wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> I think the current discussion on supporting plain text (literal) bodies
>> in the Open Annotation model is important because there are many real-world
>> annotation use cases that attach such bodies to Web resources (e.g.,
>> Flickr).. Therefore I spent some time to summarize existing pro and con
>> arguments and came up with possible solutions (with some help from Antoine)
>> for representing plain text (literal) bodies.
>> Here is the Wikipage:
>> http://www.w3.org/community/openannotation/wiki/Textual_Bodies
>> Apologies in advance, I tried to find and cite all arguments in the spec
>> and the previous thread as precisely as possible, but might have missed one
>> or the other. So please fix the arguments directly in the wiki. If there
>> are other possible solutions, please add them...
>> It seems that there are two possible solutions at the moment:
>> 1.) Allow Literals for oa:hasBody
>> 2.) Introduce a shortcut property (e.g., oa:hasLiteralBody) for plain
>> text bodies
>> I think both solutions are feasible and meet the goal of "remaining
>> simple enough to also allow for the most common use cases, such as
>> attaching a piece of text to a single web resource", mentioned in the
>> introduction.
>> If I had to choose now, I would probably prefer the first option because
>> I am not (yet) convinced by the counter-arguments and it avoids the
>> introduction of another property. Also, the motivation for using OA in our
>> context (maphub, yuma, etc.) is sharing and exchanging annotation data on
>> the Web and not building a formal knowledge base one can use for
>> inferencing; therefore also allowing literals as bodies could easily be
>> handled by an additional "if body.isLiteral?" condition in any OA parser.
>> However, I understand that inferencing and therefore consistency is
>> rather important for some other use cases, which brings me back to the
>> second option as a possible compromise.
>> Best,
>> Bernhard
> --
> Robert Bolick
> Books On Books <http://www.scoop.it/t/books-on-books> site
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Dr. Paolo Ciccarese
Biomedical Informatics Research & Development
Instructor of Neurology at Harvard Medical School
Assistant in Neuroscience at Mass General Hospital
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