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Re: whine about dctypes:Software

From: Robert Sanderson <azaroth42@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:05:26 -0700
Message-ID: <CABevsUEPKeX_m=K3dpR2zSvnAgM6dUd6QFm3KxnKHBZwP+Z+4g@mail.gmail.com>
To: Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk>
Cc: public-openannotation <public-openannotation@w3.org>
We could use those three classes?  So prov:Person, prov:Organization,
prov;softwareAgent plus the other properties from foaf ?
That seems more consistent than the current situation.

Opinions?

Rob

On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes
<soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
> PROV defines prov:SoftwareAgent [1] which might be appropriate. There
> are also prov:Organization and prov;Person.
>
> In the PROV-Dublin Core Terms mapping we make dct:Agent
> owl:equivalentClass prov:Agent. I think it should also be equivalent
> to at foaf:Agent, but we've not formally stated that anywhere.
>
>
>
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/prov-o/#SoftwareAgent
> [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/prov-dc/
>
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Robert Sanderson <azaroth42@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Bob, Paolo,
>>
>> Yes, we had the exact same discussion last week :) The conclusion was that
>> the inference of Agent-ness can be drawn based on the range of
>> oa:annotatedBy / oa:serializedBy, or the domain of the various foaf
>> properties.  So requiring the assertion to be explicit was unnecessary.
>>
>> The options seem to be:
>> * Status quo, but make it explicit in the description of the Provenance
>> Agents section
>> * Create our own SoftwareAgent subClass of foaf:Agent
>> * Convince Dan to add one to foaf
>>
>> Dan?
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Paolo Ciccarese <paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Bob,
>>> we have been discussing that issues when we picked that type
>>> and we felt a little uncomfortable as well.
>>>
>>> In the past, personally, I've been extending FOAF with some classes and
>>> properties.
>>> That is the other option I see. It would be our class though.
>>>
>>> Paolo
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:10 AM, Bob Morris <morris.bob@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I guess this issue is in the current core also.
>>>>
>>>> In http://www.openannotation.org/spec/future/core.html#ProvAgents it
>>>> is proposed that dctypes:Software be used to type a software agent.
>>>> One problem is that dctypesSoftware is not a subtype of foaf:Agent,
>>>> thereby requiring(?) that a foaf:Agent type also be asserted on any
>>>> Agent of type dctype:Software.
>>>>
>>>> I don't find this inherently improper, but I'm uncomfortable about an
>>>> asymmetry between the Person and Software cases. I don't have a better
>>>> idea though, and wonder why the FOAF community hasn't offered such a
>>>> subclass.
>>>>
>>>> We also would often need to have Software as the object of
>>>> oa:annotatedBy.  In addition to humans, we have Kepler workflows
>>>> producing annotations autonomously.
>>>>
>>>> Bob Morris
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