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Re: Content in RDF status

From: Paolo Ciccarese <paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 08:49:14 -0500
Message-ID: <CAFPX2kD-YhbVh16Xuwd4e-NovD9JH7ZQf+5fcvKT_UvHr5jvnA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk>
Cc: public-openannotation <public-openannotation@w3.org>
This is very helpful, thank you Stian!

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes <
soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:

> > 7. The specification re-uses the cnt and trig namespaces. But these are
> not stable proposals, I fear.
> > Is anyone still working on the CNT working draft? What will be the
> status of TriG after the RDF Working Group publishes new material for Named
> Graphs?
>
> I emailed the Shadi Abou-Zahra from the Evaluation and Repair Tools
> Working Group (ERT WG) [2] , who conforms that the Content in RDF [3]
> is a stable proposal with only a few minor outstanding issues, but is
> not currently on the REC track as they are focusing on doing this for
> their main specification EARL [1]. They welcome any comments on the
> specifications.
>
> I've let him know that we would consider it useful to have
> Content-in-RDF on the REC track as well. Their WG has also developed
> the HTTP in RDF working draft [1] which I think could be useful for us
> to specify HTTP accept headers etc slightly structured, rather than
> the current opaque rdf:value blurb in oa:HttpRequestState.
>
> For reference, you may find extracts from our email exchange below.
>
>
> [0] http://www.w3.org/TR/EARL10-Schema/
> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/HTTP-in-RDF10/
> [2] http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/
> [3] http://www.w3.org/TR/Content-in-RDF10/
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org> wrote:
> > (..)
> > Content-in-RDF is mostly up-to-date, we only received a few comments
> most of
> > which are resolved and that can be addressed quite quickly:
> >  - <http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/Content/issues>
> > (..)
>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes
> <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
> > (..)
> > In our view it would be very desirable to have ContentInRDF on the REC
> > track, as it is a very useful vocabulary in many contexts, independent of
> > the EARL work, which is a bit more orthogonal to our annotations work.
> > (..)
>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes
> <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
> > Thanks for the update.
> > No, it was just a general concern from some of our members in referring
> to a
> > working draft that at first glance could seem abandoned. Content in RDF
> fits
> > our needs quite nicely to allow inline annotation bodies, and we attach
> also
> > dc:format to describe mime type, and type it using DCMI typed to in a
> more
> > abstract way know if it is text, image, etc.
> > (..)
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org> wrote:
> > I can see your concern, we have been kind of stuck with the test suites
> > development that is blocking progress of the entire EARL suite. But I
> > confirm that this is not abandoned work and that, according to the list
> of
> > issues I previously sent you, Content-in-RDF seems fairly stable.
> >
> > Aside, there were comments requesting Content-in-RDF and other support
> notes
> > for EARL to become REC-track documents. This would make them more stable
> but
> > would need much more effort for documenting test suites and
> implementations
> > to finalize. The current group decision is not to make that move, so we
> > could consider finalizing these support notes as only the EARL 1.0 Schema
> > document itself is on REC-track. Thoughts on this?
>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes
> <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
> > Thanks for your reply.
> > In our view it would be very desirable to have ContentInRDF on the REC
> > track, as it is a very useful vocabulary in many contexts, independent of
> > the EARL work, which is a bit more orthogonal to our annotations work.
> >
> > We are probably also interested in the HTTP in RDF vocabulary as we
> annotate
> > specific resources with Accept headers, etc, but don't want to go to
> > verbose, perhaps limit ourselves to http:fieldName and http:fieldValue.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org> wrote:
> > (..)
> > As said, ERT WG took a provisional step not to take these documents to
> > REC-track as they are really only supporting documents ("extensions") for
> > the core EARL vocabulary. This is primarily due to the fact that
> currently
> > not very many web accessibility evaluation tools, which is our main
> focus of
> > work, support the extensions and we would have even more difficulty
> finding
> > and documenting test suites and implementations.
> >
> > Having said that, over time we have been seeing increased uptake of these
> > vocabulary extensions outside our direct area of work. If there is
> > sufficient use, especially readily available test suites and tool
> > implementations, then it may change the current position of ERT WG.
> >
> > This is obviously my perspective that would need ERT WG discussion.
> > (..)
>
>


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