- From: Jorge Gracia <jogracia@unizar.es>
- Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 09:34:02 +0200
- To: Julia Bosque Gil <jbosque@fi.upm.es>
- Cc: Katrien.Depuydt@ivdnt.org, Ilan Kernerman <ilan@kdictionaries.com>, Philipp Cimiano <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>, public-ontolex <public-ontolex@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CANzuSaOXtA57h_htbsst_4Up+VwNgDM5C_P2pEdBbWVmHaJTyA@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Philipp, all, When is the next telco taking place? today? next week? Thanks! Jorge El lun., 4 jun. 2018 a las 15:26, Julia Bosque Gil (<jbosque@fi.upm.es>) escribió: > Dear all, > > I am available next Monday (11th) and the following week (18th). > > Best, > > Julia > > El lun., 4 jun. 2018 a las 12:42, Katrien Depuydt (< > Katrien.Depuydt@ivdnt.org>) escribió: > >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> I am available next Monday, but the week after that as well. >> >> >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Katrien >> >> >> >> >> Lic. Katrien Depuydt >> senior onderzoeker/taalkundige >> >> senior researcher/linguist >> >> +31 (0)71 527 2479 +31 (0)6 53627318 / kamer 104 >> >> >> >> */instituut voor de Nederlandse taal/* >> >> Rapenburg 61 / 2311 GJ / Leiden >> >> Postbus 6515 / 2300 RA / Leiden >> >> >> >> ivdnt.org >> >> >> >> >> >> This message shall not constitute any obligations. >> >> This message is intended solely for the addressee. >> If you have received this message in error, please >> inform us and delete the message. >> >> >> >> *Van:* Ilan Kernerman [mailto:ilan@kdictionaries.com] >> *Verzonden:* maandag 4 juni 2018 12:40 >> *Aan:* Philipp Cimiano; public-ontolex@w3.org >> *Onderwerp:* RE: citations etc >> >> >> >> I will not be available next week. My apologies. >> >> Ilan >> >> >> >> *From:* Philipp Cimiano [mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de >> <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>] >> *Sent:* Monday, June 04, 2018 1:32 PM >> *To:* public-ontolex@w3.org >> *Subject:* Re: citations etc >> >> >> >> Dear Fahad, >> >> if this is the case, then I propose we skip the teleconference today. >> >> It would be good to have you available to discuss your paper and the >> definitions of attestation. >> >> I propose then we postpone to next week. I will not be available, but I >> think it is more important that other players are available (Fahad, Ilan, >> Katrien, etc.) >> >> Will John or Julia be available for chairing next week? >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Philipp. >> >> >> >> Am 04.06.18 um 12:23 schrieb Fahad Khan: >> >> Hi Philipp, >> >> I'm afraid I won't be able to attend today. >> >> Cheers, >> Fahad >> >> >> >> On 4 June 2018 at 12:16, Philipp Cimiano <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de> >> wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> >> thanks for this Ilan. >> >> @All. I had planned a telco for today as I will not be available for the >> next two weeks. >> >> And here is my proposed definition for an attestation: >> >> Attestation: An attestation is a reference to a source that proves that >> the lexical entry has a certain linguistic property (e.g. a sense). >> >> I propose we talk at 13:00 today to touch base and see how we continue >> our discussion on attestation. >> >> Talk to you later, >> >> Philipp. >> >> >> >> Am 02.06.18 um 12:46 schrieb Ilan Kernerman: >> >> Dear all, >> >> Following our last call, here are some suggestions: >> >> · A *citation* consists of a quote from a corpus (text); it may >> either (i) include a reference to its origin (*bibl*), or (ii) not. >> >> o An *attestation* is the reference to a source (*bibl*) without its >> actual *citation*. >> >> § (in other words, *bibl* and *attestation* might be similar, but the >> latter is not preceded by a *citation*) >> >> · An *example of usage* (or *usage example*) is human-crafted, >> whether (i) corpus-inspired/derived, or (ii) not. >> >> o The *example* can consist of either a full sentence or a short >> phrase (and could also be a *citation*) >> >> § (there are different types of examples – mainly of general patterns, >> for reception/decoding purposes, active for production/encoding – but that >> is probably beyond the scope here) >> >> This might seem like over-simplifying or distorting matters, but I hope >> it is useful for more accurate mapping/tagging. >> >> I think this does not contradict the concerns raised in Fahad’s article J >> : >> >> “Lemon, unlike TEI-DICT, however focuses on capturing the conceptual >> content of a lexicon, that is, it takes a primarily lexical view of lexical >> resources… Hence there is no conflict here between the demands of fidelity >> to the text in its lexical view and the text in its editorial and >> typographical view as there is in TEI; lemon simply prioritises the former. >> ” >> >> “…a proper encoding of citations attesting to lexical properties must >> take into consideration at least two different kinds of conceptual entity: >> citations and attestations” >> >> Best, >> >> Ilan >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Prof. Dr. Philipp Cimiano >> >> AG Semantic Computing >> >> Exzellenzcluster für Cognitive Interaction Technology (CITEC) >> >> Universität Bielefeld >> >> >> >> Tel: +49 521 106 12249 >> >> Fax: +49 521 106 6560 >> >> Mail: cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de >> >> >> >> Office CITEC-2.307 >> >> Universitätsstr. 21-25 >> >> 33615 Bielefeld, NRW >> >> Germany >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Prof. Dr. Philipp Cimiano >> >> AG Semantic Computing >> >> Exzellenzcluster für Cognitive Interaction Technology (CITEC) >> >> Universität Bielefeld >> >> >> >> Tel: +49 521 106 12249 >> >> Fax: +49 521 106 6560 >> >> Mail: cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de >> >> >> >> Office CITEC-2.307 >> >> Universitätsstr. 21-25 >> >> 33615 Bielefeld, NRW >> >> Germany >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Aan dit bericht kunnen geen rechten worden ontleend. >> Het bericht is alleen bestemd voor de geadresseerde. >> Indien het bericht niet voor u is bestemd, verzoeken wij >> u dit aan ons te melden en het bericht te verwijderen. >> >> This message shall not constitute any obligations. >> This message is intended solely for the addressee. >> If you have received this message in error, please >> inform us and delete the message. >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > -- > > Julia Bosque Gil > PhD Student > Ontology Engineering Group <http://www.oeg-upm.net/> > Departamento de Inteligencia Artificial > Universidad Politécnica de Madrid > -- Jorge Gracia, PhD Department of Computer Science and Systems Engineering University of Zaragoza http://jogracia.url.ph/web/
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