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Re: Party: Assignee=everyone

From: Víctor Rodríguez Doncel <vrodriguez@fi.upm.es>
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 16:08:31 +0200
Message-ID: <523B055F.9080707@fi.upm.es>
To: public-odrl@w3.org

As a reminder:
- in MPEG-21 REL, there is an <AllPrincipals> element in their XML.
- in XACML 1.0, there was a <AnySubject> element (and AnyAction / 
AnyResource). In subsequent versions, it was removed. It was said that 
the effect of missing it out was exactly the same.


Regards,
Víctor

El 19/09/2013 15:48, Mo McRoberts escribió:
> Hi Cindy,
>
> I wonder if 'public' has unintended connotations that 'everyone' doesn't? i.e., 'everyone' is exactly that, whereas 'public' implies an (undefined) subset of everyone?
>
> M.
>
> On  2013-Sep-19, at 14:36, Cindy Lewis <cindy.lewis@me.com>
>   wrote:
>
>> Could we use "Public" as the vocabulary word or fixed ID for "everyone"?
>>
>> All other "fixed" ids of interest would all be concerned with people permissioned by the Assignee. For example, a "subscriber" or an "endorser"
>>
>> Some possible fixed ids:
>> Public
>> Subscriber
>> Endorser
>> Licensee
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Mo McRoberts wrote:
>>
>>> On  2013-Sep-19, at 13:38, Renato Iannella <ri@semanticidentity.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 18 Sep 2013, at 01:42, Mo McRoberts <mo.mcroberts@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This sounds like something perhaps could be added to the vocabulary to indicate the conceptual Party representing 'everyone' and which can be used as a @uid wherever that's needed?
>>>> We could...what would it look like?...and are there other "fixed" ids of interest?
>>> In the RDF variant, we'd express it as a named individual, something like
>>>
>>> :everyone a :All ;
>>> 	rdfs:isDefinedBy odrl: ;
>>> 	vs:term_status "testing" ;
>>> 	rdfs:label "Everyone"@en ;
>>> 	rdfs:comment "This is a pre-defined party which can be used when explicitly referring to the set of all possible parties"@en .
>>>
>>> I'm not sure how it works in the XSD, I'm even less of an expert there :)
>>>
>>> I'm not sure about fixed IDs for parties, once we've done one adding others should be technically easy if there's consensus.
>>>
>>> M.
>>>
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>>> Subject: Re: Party: Assignee=everyone
>>> Date: September 19, 2013 8:52:40 AM EDT
>>> To: Renato Iannella <ri@semanticidentity.com>
>>> Cc: "<public-odrl@w3.org>" <public-odrl@w3.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On  2013-Sep-19, at 13:38, Renato Iannella <ri@semanticidentity.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 18 Sep 2013, at 01:42, Mo McRoberts <mo.mcroberts@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This sounds like something perhaps could be added to the vocabulary to indicate the conceptual Party representing 'everyone' and which can be used as a @uid wherever that's needed?
>>>> We could...what would it look like?...and are there other "fixed" ids of interest?
>>> In the RDF variant, we'd express it as a named individual, something like
>>>
>>> :everyone a :All ;
>>> 	rdfs:isDefinedBy odrl: ;
>>> 	vs:term_status "testing" ;
>>> 	rdfs:label "Everyone"@en ;
>>> 	rdfs:comment "This is a pre-defined party which can be used when explicitly referring to the set of all possible parties"@en .
>>>
>>> I'm not sure how it works in the XSD, I'm even less of an expert there :)
>>>
>>> I'm not sure about fixed IDs for parties, once we've done one adding others should be technically easy if there's consensus.
>>>
>>> M.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Mo McRoberts - Analyst - BBC Archive Development,
>>> Zone 1.08, BBC Scotland, 40 Pacific Quay, Glasgow G51 1DA,
>>> MC3 D6, Media Centre, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TQ,
>>> 0141 422 6036 (Internal: 01-26036) - PGP key CEBCF03E
>>>
>>>
>>>
>


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Víctor Rodríguez-Doncel
D3205 - Ontology Engineering Group (OEG)
Departamento de Inteligencia Artificial
Facultad de Informática
Universidad Politécnica de Madrid

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