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From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:25:44 +0100
To: public-mwts@w3.org
Message-ID: <1264523144.15707.13905.camel@localhost>
Hi,

The minutes of our call today (Jan 26) are available at
http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-mwts-minutes.html
and copied as text below.

Dom

    Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference

26 Jan 2010

   [2]Agenda

      [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0042.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-mwts-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Dom, Carmelo, Kai, dmitri

   Regrets
          Wilhelm

   Chair
          Dom

   Scribe
          dom

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]WCTMB2
         2. [6]Test assertions methodology
         3. [7]Next call
     * [8]Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________

WCTMB2

   ACTION-103?

   <trackbot> ACTION-103 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look into
   recording test results from WCTMB2 using XHR and db -- due
   2010-01-26 -- PENDINGREVIEW

   <trackbot> [9]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/103

      [9] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/103

   close ACTION-103

   <trackbot> ACTION-103 Look into recording test results from WCTMB2
   using XHR and db closed

   <dom_scribe> [10]new URI for WCTMB2

     [10] http://www.w3.org/2010/01/wctmb2/

   <hendry> dom: very cool :)

   <dom_scribe> [11]Scores for WCTMB2

     [11] http://www.w3.org/2010/01/results-wctmb2

   Kai: would be good to show individual results as permalinks

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to set up permalinks for individuals results
   for WCTMB2 (not critical for release) [recorded in
   [12]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-mwts-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-117 - Set up permalinks for individuals
   results for WCTMB2 (not critical for release) [on Dominique
   Hazaël-Massieux - due 2010-02-02].

   ACTION-108?

   <trackbot> ACTION-108 -- Kai Hendry to fix <input type="date" /> in
   WCTMB2 -- due 2010-01-26 -- PENDINGREVIEW

   <trackbot> [13]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/108

     [13] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/108

   close ACTION-108

   <trackbot> ACTION-108 Fix <input type="date" /> in WCTMB2 closed

   Kai: it now validates with HTML5 validator
   ... I haven't updated the test case description

   <scribe> ACTION: Kai to update <input type='date'> description
   [recorded in
   [14]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-mwts-minutes.html#action02]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-118 - Update <input type='date'>
   description [on Kai Hendry - due 2010-02-02].

   ACTION-109?

   <trackbot> ACTION-109 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to test wctmb2 on
   his devices -- due 2010-01-26 -- PENDINGREVIEW

   <trackbot> [15]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/109

     [15] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/109

   close ACTION-109

   <trackbot> ACTION-109 Test wctmb2 on his devices closed

   <dom_scribe> [16]results of running the tests on various
   devices/browsers

     [16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0045.html

   <dom_scribe> [17]Kai found a bug

     [17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0046.html

   <scribe> ACTION: Kai to fix try/catch bug in WCTMB2 [recorded in
   [18]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-mwts-minutes.html#action03]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-119 - Fix try/catch bug in WCTMB2 [on Kai
   Hendry - due 2010-02-02].

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to look at making the test work in ie6 (Kai to
   do it if not done in time by Dom) [recorded in
   [19]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-mwts-minutes.html#action04]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-120 - Look at making the test work in ie6
   (Kai to do it if not done in time by Dom) [on Dominique
   Hazaël-Massieux - due 2010-02-02].

   close ACTION-110

   <trackbot> ACTION-110 Test wctmb2 on his devices closed

   ACTION-112?

   <trackbot> ACTION-112 -- Dmitri Sileav to test wctmb2 on his devices
   -- due 2010-01-26 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [20]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/112

     [20] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/112

   Dmitri: ran on HTC with Opera 9.5, 9.8
   ... ~17% passed tests
   ... think the contenteditable test might have stopped the other
   tests to work correctly
   ... only <canvas> and xmlhttprequest passed
   ... also tested on Firefox on Windows, and Safari
   ... Safari gets 50%, FF 75%

   close ACTION-112

   <trackbot> ACTION-112 Test wctmb2 on his devices closed

   Dmitri: the averages by test show that contenteditable fails for 90%
   ... although it was already in WCTMB1 and it seemed to pass on the
   same device

   Dom: so maybe a bug in contenteditable?

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to ask wilhelm to look at contenteditable test
   [recorded in
   [21]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-mwts-minutes.html#action05]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-121 - Ask wilhelm to look at
   contenteditable test [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due
   2010-02-02].

   Dmitri: also tried to run the test on our internal implementation
   ... passed 80% (18% ?)

   ACTION-113?

   <trackbot> ACTION-113 -- Kai Hendry to draft announcement of WCTMB2
   -- due 2010-01-26 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [22]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/113

     [22] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/113

   Dom: send back some comments on your private draft
   ... could you re-send with corrections to the list?

   ACTION-113 due next week

   <trackbot> ACTION-113 Draft announcement of WCTMB2 due date now next
   week

   Dom: probably need one more cycle before release
   ... hope that wilhelm can organize a call next week

Test assertions methodology

   close ACTION-114

   <trackbot> ACTION-114 Review new version of methodology closed

   <dom_scribe> [23]Dom's review

     [23] http://www.w3.org/mid/1263983491.15707.9519.camel%2540localhost

   close ACTION-116

   <trackbot> ACTION-116 Review the new version of methodology closed

   <dom_scribe> [24]Dmitri's review

     [24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0040.html

   close ACTION-115

   <trackbot> ACTION-115 Review new version of methodology closed

   ACTION-115: dropped for timing reasons

   <trackbot> ACTION-115 Review new version of methodology notes added

Next call

   Dom: Regrets for me

   <hendry> yes

   Dom: I suggest you guys should have a call to have a final look at
   the test and decide to release it

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Dom to ask wilhelm to look at contenteditable test
   [recorded in
   [25]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
   [NEW] ACTION: Dom to look at making the test work in ie6 (Kai to do
   it if not done in time by Dom) [recorded in
   [26]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
   [NEW] ACTION: Dom to set up permalinks for individuals results for
   WCTMB2 (not critical for release) [recorded in
   [27]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-mwts-minutes.html#action01]
   [NEW] ACTION: Kai to fix try/catch bug in WCTMB2 [recorded in
   [28]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-mwts-minutes.html#action03]
   [NEW] ACTION: Kai to update <input type='date'> description
   [recorded in
   [29]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-mwts-minutes.html#action02]

   [End of minutes]
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