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Fwd: [ISSUE-76]: clarification of "inconsistency" quality issue type needed, was: Re: Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD [Action-392] Make the edit for issue 76

From: Dr. David Filip <David.Filip@ul.ie>
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:23:20 +0000
Message-ID: <CANw5LK=EYZaEqH-5-m8iSefW35QYmn6=Asf3XisUOExbPiSDfA@mail.gmail.com>
To: public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org, public-multilingualweb-lt-comments@w3.org
Cc: Verifika support <support@e-verifika.com>
Just forwarding, Mikhail's resolution satisfaction statement to the
lists for record.
Thanks, Mikhail
dF
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Verifika support <support@e-verifika.com>
Date: Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 4:53 AM
Subject: RE: [ISSUE-76]: clarification of "inconsistency" quality
issue type needed, was: Re: Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD
[Action-392] Make the edit for issue 76
To: "Dr. David Filip" <David.Filip@ul.ie>


Yes, exactly.

Thank you,

Mikhail

--
Kind regards,

Mikhail Kudinov
VerifikaT Support & Development Team
Palex Languages & Software
Tel: +7 (3822) 53-16-38 | Fax: +7 (3822) 56-27-33
Russia | Tomsk | GMT +7




-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. David Filip [mailto:David.Filip@ul.ie]
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 8:01 AM
To: Verifika support
Cc: public-multilingualweb-lt-comments@w3.org; public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org
Subject: Re: [ISSUE-76]: clarification of "inconsistency" quality
issue type needed, was: Re: Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD
[Action-392] Make the edit for issue 76

Thanks, Mikhail,

the mechanics of the proposed example is explained in the referenced minutes:
<Arle> Add second example: The translated text uses different wording
for a single regulatory notice in the source that occurs multiple
times in a series of manuals.
The specific example though still needs to be developed as part of the
pending editorial action.
Still, because the definition is normative and the example to be added
only informative, I take it that you are happy with the new definition
of the "inconsistence" value and thus satisfied with the resolution of
your comment. Is that right?

Thanks
dF

Dr. David Filip
=======================
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On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Verifika support
<support@e-verifika.com> wrote:
> Dear David,
>
> Yes, new category descriptions seems to be enough for our goals.
> Unfortunately, I have not found an example (that should be added to the description) to be sure.
> Thank you for the attention.
>
> --
> Kind regards,
>
> Mikhail Kudinov
> VerifikaT Support & Development Team
> Palex Languages & Software
> Tel: +7 (3822) 53-16-38 | Fax: +7 (3822) 56-27-33 Russia | Tomsk | GMT
> +7
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dr. David Filip [mailto:David.Filip@ul.ie]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:50 PM
> To: public-multilingualweb-lt-comments@w3.org; Verifika support
> Cc: public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org
> Subject: Re: [ISSUE-76]: clarification of "inconsistency" quality
> issue type needed, was: Re: Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD
> [Action-392] Make the edit for issue 76
>
> Dear Mikhail,
> sorry for our long silence regarding your valuable comment.
> Your comment has been accpted at the groups F2F meetinmg in Prague on
> January 23
> http://www.w3.org/2013/01/23-mlw-lt-minutes.html#item15
> The resolution was to broaden the category description to explicitly cover  and provide a second example, see the above link for details.
> Unfortunately, the editorial action is still pending.
> Would you please let us know for record if the solution as outlined in the minutes above satisfies you?
> Thanks again for your contribution and kind regards dF
>
> Dr. David Filip
> =======================
> LRC | CNGL | LT-Web | CSIS
> University of Limerick, Ireland
> telephone: +353-6120-2781
> cellphone: +353-86-0222-158
> facsimile: +353-6120-2734
> mailto: david.filip@ul.ie
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Dr. David Filip <David.Filip@ul.ie> wrote:
>> Dear Mikhail,
>>
>> your comment has been assigned
>>
>> ISSUE-76:
>>
>> clarification of "inconsistency" quality issue type needed.
>>
>> Your comment has been discussed during regular WG calls and members
>> of the group will be using reference to ISSUE-76 providing e-mail
>> clarifications regarding your comment.
>>
>> Thanks again for sending your comment dF
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr. David Filip
>> =======================
>> LRC | CNGL | LT-Web | CSIS
>> University of Limerick, Ireland
>> telephone: +353-6120-2781
>> cellphone: +353-86-0222-158
>> facsimile: +353-6120-2734
>> mailto: david.filip@ul.ie
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mikhail,
>>>
>>> since you are not subscribed to the comments list, your mail did not reach the list. You can subscribe to the list via this link:
>>>
>>> mailto:public-multilingualweb-lt-comments-request&#64;w3.org?subject=
>>> subscribe
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot anyway for the comment. We will discuss it and come back to you asap.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Felix
>>>
>>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>> Betreff: [Moderator Action] Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD
>>> Datum: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:36:32 +0000
>>> Von: Verifika support <support@e-verifika.com>
>>> An: public-multilingualweb-lt-comments@w3.org
>>> <public-multilingualweb-lt-comments@w3.org>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I tried to map all our QA categories to the standard ones.
>>>
>>> For most of them it was quite obvious, but I am not sure about the inconsistency errors.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Our inconsistency check (like a lot of other tools ones) finds different translation for the same source text in one file, across several files or file and translation memory.
>>>
>>> It seems it should be mapped to category "inconsistency", but the exact description of this category is the following:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The text is inconsistent with itself (NB: not for use with terminology inconsistency).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Example is also about inconsistency in the same text fragment, but not about different translations of the same text.
>>>
>>> So, it seems this category should not include our "inconsistency" errors, but may be it is result of short description.
>>>
>>> Could you clarify the sense of this category?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Mikhail Kudinov
>>> VerifikaT Support & Development Team
>>> Palex Languages & Software
>>> Tel: +7 (3822) 53-16-38 | Fax: +7 (3822) 56-27-33 Russia | Tomsk |
>>> GMT +7
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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