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Re: MLWLT-issue-88 (Re: Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD, i18n-ISSUE-211: Quote element in HTML)

From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 17:07:55 +0100
Message-ID: <514B305B.3010906@w3.org>
To: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
CC: Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net>, public-multilingualweb-lt-comments@w3.org, www International <www-international@w3.org>
Ah, ok, thanks - done.

Best,

Felix

Am 21.03.13 16:00, schrieb Richard Ishida:
> All I'm proposing is to change to
>
>  <p>In Arabic, the title <q dir=rtl lang=ar>نشاط التدويل، W3C</q>
>     means "Internationalization Activity, W3C".</p>
>
> I don't think that this invalidates the example.
>
> RI
>
>
> On 21/03/2013 14:58, Felix Sasaki wrote:
>> Am 21.03.13 15:53, schrieb Richard Ishida:
>>> Hmm. Ok. I think you could probably argue use of q for the markup with
>>> the dir attribute in it, but I think that the text
>>> "Internationalization Activity, W3C" should probably just have quotes
>>> around it, since it's not quoting anything.
>>
>> The purpose of the example is to demonstrate the usage of "dir" in
>> HTML5. What would be a good text for that? e.g. how could we replace
>>
>> <p>In Arabic, the title <q dir=rtl lang=ar>نشاط التدويل، W3C</q>
>>        means <q>Internationalization Activity, W3C</q>.</p>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Felix
>>
>>>
>>> (See the HTML5 spec "The q element must not be used in place of
>>> quotation marks that do not represent quotes; for example, it is
>>> inappropriate to use the q element for marking up sarcastic 
>>> statements.")
>>>
>>> RI
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21/03/2013 09:02, Felix Sasaki wrote:
>>>> Hi Richard, Björn, all,
>>>>
>>>> the example 48 now says "q", see
>>>> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#EX-dir-html5-local-1 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I assume that you are OK with this, let us know otherwise.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Felix
>>>>
>>>> Am 14.02.13 15:43, schrieb Felix Sasaki:
>>>>> Hi Richard, all,
>>>>>
>>>>> coming back to this: do you want us to change this to "q" or to
>>>>> "cite"? Both fine, just trying to move the issue forward.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Felix
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 16.01.13 20:51, schrieb Richard Ishida:
>>>>>> Apologies. I'm referring to Example 48.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RI
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 16/01/2013 19:46, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote:
>>>>>>> * Richard Ishida wrote:
>>>>>>>> Example 48: The Directionality data category expressed locally in
>>>>>>>> HTML
>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-its20-20121206/#directionality-implementation 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is no quote element in HTML5. I think you mean cite.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More likely 'q' or 'blockquote'. It would help if you would 
>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>> quote the text you are commenting on, the section number is 
>>>>>>> nice, but
>>>>>>> people still have to search and guess what you might be 
>>>>>>> referring to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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