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Re: issue-63 (Re: Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD - "conformance" Issue Type)

From: Dr. David Filip <David.Filip@ul.ie>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 13:54:33 +0000
Message-ID: <CANw5LKmedppsMWj6E-JfP=krJ3FkiH-Cgp7879A9LQs2PJ0oog@mail.gmail.com>
To: Phil Ritchie <philr@vistatec.ie>
Cc: Dave Lewis <dave.lewis@cs.tcd.ie>, public-multilingualweb-lt-comments@w3.org
Phil, trying to see if this has moved. There has been no traffic on
this one as of Feb 5 and the meeting of Feb 6 seems only to have
restated that the category would be produced and consumed between
Digital Linguistics and Vistatec.

While I am aware that this would formally provide two implementers, my
impression is that this new value has not had sufficient traction.
Any thoughts, comments?
Thanks
dF

Dr. David Filip
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On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Phil Ritchie <philr@vistatec.ie> wrote:
> Dave
>
> Digital Linguistics will implement as "producer" and VistaTEC will implement
> as "consumer".
>
> Phil.
>
>
>
>
>
> From:        Dave Lewis <dave.lewis@cs.tcd.ie>
> To:        public-multilingualweb-lt-comments@w3.org,
> Date:        03/02/2013 19:59
> Subject:        Re: issue-63 (Re: Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD -
> "conformance"   Issue  Type)
> ________________________________
>
>
>
> Hi Phil,
> We need to reach a resolution on ISSUE-63, on the inclusion of the suggested
> conformance type to the values for lqi type.
>
> As discussed on the 7th Jan call
> (http://www.w3.org/2013/01/07-mlw-lt-minutes.html#item04), to advance this
> we need to find another supporter who'd be willing to implement this. Did
> you find anyone else interested in adding this type?
>
> I suggest we review the status of this on this wed (6th Feb) call, but if we
> can find no one else who is interested then we reject this comment.
>
> cheers,
> Dave
>
>
> On 14/12/2012 16:49, Phil Ritchie wrote:
> All
>
> Per sample output:
>
> !DOCTYPE html
> <html>
>        <head>
>        </head>
>        <body>
>                <span its-loc-quality-issues-type="conformance"
> its-loc-quality-severity="2.45">En outre, vous pouvez sélectionner l'option
> capture d'écran, ce qui permet de prendre une capture d'écran n'importe où
> dans Windows et l'insérer dans votre document.</span>
>                <span its-loc-quality-issues-type="conformance"
> its-loc-quality-severity="1.46">Partage de documents a également été
> améliorée, avec plusieurs personnes de travailler sur un document en même
> temps en ligne, même si je n'étais pas en mesure de tester cette
> fonctionnalité.</span>
>                <span its-loc-quality-issues-type="conformance"
> its-loc-quality-severity="4.3">À l'instar des autres applications Office
> 2010, Excel dispose de nouveaux outils pour le partage des données avec
> d'autres personnes, y compris plusieurs personnes travaillant sur un
> document à la fois.</span>
>        <body>
> </html>
>
> Existing tools that would utilise the the error types are Review Sentinel
> published by Digital Linguistics (http://www.digitallinguistics.com).
> Implementation could be done by late February 2013. Also, the VistaTEC
> Reviewer's Workbench as part of our deliverables. Some implementation
> dependency upon mapping in Xliff.
>
> Phil.
>
>
>
>
>
> From:        Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
> To:        Phil Ritchie <philr@vistatec.ie>,
> Cc:        public-multilingualweb-lt-comments@w3.org
> Date:        14/12/2012 09:46
> Subject:        issue-63 (Re: Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD -
> "conformance"  Issue Type)
> ________________________________
>
>
>
> Thanks, Phil. This is now issue-63. When we discuss this we need to take the
> "stability aspect"
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt-comments/2012Dec/0020.html
> and the "existing tools" aspect
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt-comments/2012Dec/0004.html
> See in the latter mail the part
> "the other types where based on what existing tools or  standards
> initiatives produce. "
>
> Can you provide some input on that part?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Felix
>
> Am 14.12.12 08:27, schrieb Phil Ritchie:
> I would like to propose the addition of "conformance" to Appendix C (Values
> for the Localization Quality Issue Type).
>
> The values in the appendix cover specific and discrete classes of error
> (putting "other" and "unintelligible" to one side). When you start to apply
> new text classification based quality checking methods to text several error
> classes may combine in subtle ways to produce a measure of quality that is
> "aggregate" across error types but none-the-less accurately indicative that
> something is wrong. For example, a target sentence may be deemed to have
> poor conformance when measured against a corpus of domain relevant reference
> translations. A score would reflect this poor conformance but the underlying
> errors within the sentence could be a mixture of grammar, spelling, style
> and/or terminology. In such instances you may not need to explicitly
> enumerate all of the combining errors and the extent of their contribution
> to the score, but just classify it under and umbrella term of "conformance".
>
> The proposed information for the "conformance" value would be as follows:
>
> Value
>
> conformance
>
> Description
>
> The content is deemed to have a level of conformance to a reference corpus.
> Reflects the degree to which the text conforms to a reference corpus given
> an algorithm which combines several classes of error type to produce an
> aggregate rating. Higher values reflect poorer conformance.
>
> Example
>
> "The harbour connected which to printer is busy or configared not properly."
> In a system which uses classification techniques this would be deemed to
> have poor conformance. The poor conformance is a function of the combined
> incorrect terminology, wrong spelling and bad grammar.
>
> Scope
>
> S or T
>
> Notes
>
> Reflects the degree to which the text conforms to a reference corpus given
> an algorithm which combines several classes of error type to produce an
> aggregate rating. Higher values reflect poorer conformance.
>
> Phil Ritchie
>
>
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