Fwd: Re: M14

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Subject: Re: M14
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 09:54:04 +0000
From: Patrick H. Lauke <plauke@paciellogroup.com>
To: public-mobile-a11y-tf@w3.org

On 01/11/2016 21:01, Detlev Fischer wrote:
> M14 looks relevant apart maybe for some informal wording issues (e.g.
> "AT misbehaves"). I was under the impression such sections (paint area,
>  sigbature area would simply not work when SR AT is turned on.
> Chris, are there examples to look at that represent likely failures of
> M14 (i.e., expected AT gestures fail to work or only work in a reduced
> area)? Is this a hypothetical issue or one that has cropped up in real
> life already? Android? iOS? Both? I'd be grateful for examples to
> explore in advance of Thursday's telco.
> Thanks,
> Detlev

Echoing Detlev's question about examples. Am I right in thinking this is 
an issue that would crop up mainly for *native* applications on 
mobile/desktop? Because I'm not currently aware of any web (HTML/CSS/JS) 
method in which an author can override AT, with exception of bunging 
role="application" on things in the case of desktop browsers/AT. And on 
that note, do we want to provide an example/expand the wording to 
explicitly ALSO include this scenario (authors adding 
role="application", which suppresses standard AT behavior like reading 
keys etc) here (I think we should)?

P


> Am 01.11.2016 um 20:43 schrieb Kathy Wahlbin <kathyw@ia11y.com
> <mailto:kathyw@ia11y.com>>:
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>> Here is M14 that Chris put together for the call on Thursday.
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>> https://github.com/chriscm2006/Mobile-A11y-Extension/blob/d9ecc74431ee5bef084b51256468838b1d9a773a/SCs/m14.md
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>> -          M14: Non-interference of AT (Chris)
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>> -          M9: Pointer inputs with additional sensors (was: Advanced
>> pointer input)
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>> 2.       Next steps and schedule
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