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minutes of 2010-01-20 teleconference

From: RaphaŽl Troncy <raphael.troncy@cwi.nl>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:16:54 +0100
Message-ID: <4B56E626.8000409@cwi.nl>
To: Media Fragment <public-media-fragment@w3.org>
Hi all,

The minutes of today's telecon are available for review at
http://www.w3.org/2010/01/20-mediafrag-minutes.html (and in text format
below).

The main resolution taken is that the next F2F meeting will be held on 
March 8-9 in Ghent (Belgium) ... upon confirmation from Erik that he can 
host it. We expect the physical participation of Yves, Erik, Davy, Jack, 
RaphaŽl and the remote participation of Silvia, Conrad, Michael and Philip.

The first main objective of the F2F will be to finish the specification 
of the protocol handling.

We have also discussed Test Cases and the objective is to have a 
comprehensive list of them before the F2F so we can approved them.

Best regards,

   RaphaŽl

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    [1]W3C
       [1] http://www.w3.org/
              Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference
20 Jan 2010
    See also: [2]IRC log
       [2] http://www.w3.org/2010/01/20-mediafrag-irc
Attendees
    Present
           Raphael, Thierry, Davy, Yves, jackjansen,
           mhausenblas
    Regrets
           Erik, Silvia, Conrad
    Chair
           Raphael
    Scribe
           Yves

Contents
      * [3]Topics
          1. [4]Administrativia
          2. [5]next f2f
          3. [6]Spec
      * [7]Summary of Action Items
      _________________________________________________________

    <davy> regrets from Erik, he is ill

    <scribe> Scribe: Yves

Administrativia

    minutes of last Jan 13th..

    <raphael> +1 for accepting the minutes

    ACCEPTED

    Charter extension:

    Yves: heading toward one year

    Thierry: it will be discussed next tuesday. Main issue is the status
    of MF 2.0 (that was in the charter)

    Raphael: charter has wording about changing the charter for future
    work.

    Thierry: current goal is to progress MF 1.0 to REC

next f2f

    Raphael: waiting for answers from Conrad & Silvia

    Jack: they replied

    <raphael> Michael, can you dial in now ?

    more noodling needed...

    <raphael> we need your answer regarding date and location for next
    F2F

    Raphael: there are actions related to protocol, so we need to close
    those during the f2f (Conrad should attend for that)

    Conrad didn't give a full 'ok' for Seoul

    <mhausenblas> aadd is me

    Raphael: heading toward AMS for the next f2f

    we need to be sure that Conrad can make it virtually

    <mhausenblas> +1

    <davy> +1

    <jackjansen> But for coffeeshops Amsterdam is better

Spec

    We have discussions about processing requirements, as well as
    actions on syntax and tests

    <raphael> ACTION-126?

    <trackbot> ACTION-126 -- Yves Lafon to follow up on error in ABFN
    for npt -- due 2009-12-23 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [8]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/126

       [8] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/126

    Yves: there are discussion on duration/syntax in header as well, so
    we might nail both this ntp issue and header syntax in one pass

    (related to timecodes and non-zero starting point)

    <raphael> ACTION-123?

    <trackbot> ACTION-123 -- Yves Lafon to come up with ABNF for header
    syntax -- due 2009-12-09 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [9]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/123

       [9] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/123

    <raphael> Yves: we should finish that during the F2F meeting

    <raphael> ... We need to discuss that with Conrad who has added
    recently some stuff

    <raphael> Jack: how much work is needed for a strawman syntax ?

    <raphael> Yves: I think I have done that

    Yves: tought I already sent it a while ago

    Yves to investigate on this

    jack: we need it to pinpoint issues

    <raphael> ACTION-125?

    <trackbot> ACTION-125 -- Michael Hausenblas to revisit his ednote in
    section 5 -- due 2009-12-09 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [10]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/125

      [10] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/125

    <jackjansen>
    [11]http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-frags-20091217/#processing

      [11] http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-frags-20091217/#processing

    <raphael> We are looking at
    [12]http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-frags-20091217/#processing-ov
    erview-errors

      [12] 
http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-frags-20091217/#processing-overview-errors

    it's in fact Jack's ednote (the second one)

    jack: implementation shouldn't make a guess when dealing with broken
    stuff
    ... we must discuss duing the f2f

    <raphael> Discussion about whether an over-specified dimension
    should be an error or not in the group

    Yves: if there is an error it might be because it's a bug or it's an
    extension, or maybe it's just something else than a mediafrag

    <mhausenblas> close ACTION-125

    <trackbot> ACTION-125 Revisit his ednote in section 5 closed

    so be conservative and do not process errors

    Raphael: make sure that such discussion happen also around the test
    cases

    ie: move/copy the ednote on top of the wiki page

    <mhausenblas> ACTION: mhausenb to move the editorial note
    [13]http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-frags-20091217/#processing-ov
    erview-errors to the TC (wiki) [recorded in
    [14]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/20-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01]

      [13] 
http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-frags-20091217/#processing-overview-errors

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-129 - Move the editorial note
    [15]http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-frags-20091217/#processing-ov
    erview-errors to the TC (wiki) [on Michael Hausenblas - due
    2010-01-27].

      [15] 
http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-frags-20091217/#processing-overview-errors

    <raphael> ACTION-108?

    <trackbot> ACTION-108 -- Michael Hausenblas to add the missing test
    cases in corrib -- due 2009-11-16 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [16]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/108

      [16] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/108

    <raphael> ACTION-115?

    <trackbot> ACTION-115 -- Michael Hausenblas to come up with
    categorization of test cases wrt empty, undefined, etc -- due
    2009-09-30 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [17]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/115

      [17] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/115

    <raphael> ACTION-119?

    <trackbot> ACTION-119 -- Yves Lafon to request admins to set up a
    cvs notifications mailing list and notifications -- due 2009-10-14
    -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [18]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/119

      [18] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/119

    Raphael: so ETA for Michael's issues is next week.

    <raphael> ACTION-119?

    <trackbot> ACTION-119 -- Yves Lafon to request admins to set up a
    cvs notifications mailing list and notifications -- due 2009-10-14
    -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [19]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/119

      [19] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/119

    need to check the status

    jack: regrets for next week

    Yves will be at a f2f next week

Summary of Action Items

    [NEW] ACTION: mhausenb to move the editorial note
    [20]http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-frags-20091217/#processing-ov
    erview-errors to the TC (wiki) [recorded in
    [21]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/20-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01]

      [20] 
http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-frags-20091217/#processing-overview-errors

    [End of minutes]
      _________________________________________________________

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