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Re: Naming suggestion: single/dual roundtrip for 2-way/4-way handshake

From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 07:35:05 +1000
Message-ID: <2c0e02830904111435y6d8c138cyad358f2639dd9575@mail.gmail.com>
To: RaphaŽl Troncy <Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl>
Cc: Conrad Parker <conrad@metadecks.org>, Jack Jansen <Jack.Jansen@cwi.nl>, Media Fragment <public-media-fragment@w3.org>
Actually, the term "retrieval" is not that bad a term in this context
- after all, HTTP talks about retrieving a resource. They are thus a
single server-access retrieval operation, or a double server-access
retrieval operation. Now, if only we could find something more dense
to name these.

I've just read up on the HTTP protocol and "partial GET". How about
using "single-step partial GET" and "dual-step partial GET request"
for 2-way and 4-way handshake?

Silvia.

2009/4/11 RaphaŽl Troncy <Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl>:
> Dear Conrad,
>
>> 2009/4/9 Jack Jansen <Jack.Jansen@cwi.nl>:
>>>
>>> I was reading section 8, and I noticed that 2-way handshake was explained
>>> in
>>> the preamble as "single roundtrip". This struck me as a name that may be
>>> better in getting the idea across, with "dual roundtrip" then being the
>>> obvious candidate for 4-way handshake.
>>
>> How about "single retrieval" and "sequence of retrievals"? I think it
>> would be clearest to avoid making up new names for a simple HTTP GET.
>
> Good terms are obviously difficult to find :-)
> I don't like the term "retrieval" because it has already a well-defined but
> different meaning in other communities, namely in the information retrieval
> community that might (should) also be interested in this document. I like
> "roundtrip" :-) I like even more asking the community at large 1/ whether
> they are upset with the term 'handshake' or not? 2/ whether they can can
> with a better term suggestion.
>
> This is the purpose of the editorial note that reads:
> "In the following, we use the terms two-ways handshake when there is one
> roundtrip and four-ways handshake when there is two roundtrips between the
> UA and the server. We acknowledge that these terms are not necessarily
> adequate and we seek suggestions for having better terms for naming these
> processes."
>
> Consequently, I would leave the terms like that since with this ed note.
> Cheers!
>
> †RaphaŽl
>
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