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Re: MAWG - update RDF - PROPOSED TEXT FOR ERRATA

From: Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 23:33:05 +0100
Message-ID: <51522221.5070607@w3.org>
To: "Evain, Jean-Pierre" <evain@ebu.ch>
CC: "public-media-annotation@w3.org" <public-media-annotation@w3.org>, 'Joakim Söderberg' <joakim.soderberg@ericsson.com>, 'Pierre-Antoine Champin' <pierre-antoine.champin@liris.cnrs.fr>, "tobias@tobiasbuerger.com" <tobias@tobiasbuerger.com>
Jean Pierre,

Hearing no objections to your proposal

I have published the errata at its final destination

https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata.html

and published the two files

http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf
http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl

Thierry



On 26/03/2013 20:56, Evain, Jean-Pierre wrote:
> Hello Thierry,
>
> Great and thank-you.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jean-pierre
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thierry MICHEL [mailto:tmichel@w3.org]
> Sent: mardi, 26. mars 2013 20:41
> To: Evain, Jean-Pierre
> Cc: public-media-annotation@w3.org; 'Joakim Söderberg'; 'Pierre-Antoine Champin'; tobias@tobiasbuerger.com
> Subject: Re: MAWG - update RDF - PROPOSED TEXT FOR ERRATA
>
> Jean Pierre,
>
> See my comments in line.
>
> On 23/03/2013 16:01, Evain, Jean-Pierre wrote:
>> Hello Thierry,
>>
>> I see the logic behind updating E01 and E02. No problem.
>>
>> My additional comments:
>>
>> - In E01, please update the description with the updated text from PA
>> Description: In the RDF/OWL representation of the Media Ontology, the property ma:collectionName is related to rdfs:label by rdfs:subClassOf relations, which is inconsistent with it being a property. This declaration has been removed for consistency and compatibility reasons.
>
> Done
>> - In E02, the highlighted owl:Thing is not needed I believe. It is the only occurrence in the file. None other dataProperty inherit from owl:Thing.
>    removed owl:Thing
>>
>> IMPORTANT NOTE: Pierre-Antoine - can you see a reason why this happened only on collectionName when converting to TTL? Are we missing something somewhere that causes this to be generated when converting the rdf file to ttl?
>
> I hope Pierre-Antoine agrees to it ;-)
>
>> - In E02, please update the description with the updated text from PA
>> Description: In the TTL representation of the Media Ontology, the property ma:collectionName is related to rdfs:label by rdfs:subClassOf relations, which is inconsistent with it being a property. This declaration has been removed for consistency and compatibility reasons.
>
> Done
>
>> - E06 is fine
>>
>> - E07 is fine
>>
>> Pierre-Antoine also sent an additional correction - IsRatingOf is
>> capitalised in the specification when it shouldn't as well in the rdf
>> and TTL files
>>
>> - NEW EOXXX: Correction in the RDF/XML of the case in property name
>> isRatingOf
>>
>> Description:
>>
>> In the RDF/OWL property name isRatingOf is mispelled IsRatingOf (uppercase "i").
>>
>> Resolution:
>>
>> IsRatingOf
>>
>> Changed to :
>>
>> isRatingOf
>>
>> The updated derived RDF/XML representation is available at
>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf
>
>
> New Errata added
>
>>
>> - NEW EOXXX: Correction in the TTL of the case in property name
>> isRatingOf
>>
>> Description:
>>
>> In the TTL property name isRatingOf is mispelled IsRatingOf (uppercase "i").
>>
>> Resolution:
>>
>> IsRatingOf
>>
>> Changed to :
>>
>> isRatingOf
>>
>> The updated derived RDF/XML representation is available at
>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl
>
> New Errata added
>
>>
>>
>>
>> And of course the files must be updated with the attached files (removed owl:Thing) unless PA screams :--) as he generated the TTL.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Jean-pierre
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Thierry MICHEL [mailto:tmichel@w3.org]
>> Sent: vendredi, 22. mars 2013 18:06
>> To: Evain, Jean-Pierre
>> Cc: public-media-annotation@w3.org; 'Joakim Söderberg';
>> 'Pierre-Antoine Champin'; tobias@tobiasbuerger.com
>> Subject: Re: MAWG - update RDF - PROPOSED TEXT FOR ERRATA
>>
>> Jean Pierre,
>>
>> I had to deal with the errata a bit differently ...
>>
>> I have modified the former errata E01 and E02 I have added the errata
>> E0- and E07
>>
>>
>> Therefore, I have changed your email errata proposal for E01 and E02 to start the correction from the version *from the spec* (not from the former errata page) to your latest proposal.
>>
>> Therefore I have published a temporary errata page at
>> https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata-temp1.html
>>
>> details of my updates in line, following.
>>
>>
>> If you are OK with these errata proposal, I will update the errata page next week  (with the temporary one)
>>     https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata.html
>>
>> and will publish the two new files at
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf
>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl
>>
>> Thierry
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22/03/2013 09:47, Evain, Jean-Pierre wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Please find attached the new errata items addressing the changes made
>>> to the rdf/owl and derived ttl files
>>>
>>> Please let me know if I missed something.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Jean-Pierre
>>>
>>> @@@@@@@@@@@
>>>
>>> NEW ERRATA ITEMS
>>>
>>> 1/ E0XXX: Correction in the RDF/OWL representation of the Media
>>> Ontology in section 7.3
>>>
>>> Description:
>>>
>>> In the RDF/OWL representation of the Media Ontology, the property
>>> ma:collectionName is declared to be a subproperty of rdfs:label. This declaration is being removed to avoid problems of incompatibilities.
>>>
>>> Resolution:
>>>
>>> <owl:DatatypeProperty rdf:ID="collectionName"> <rdfs:domain
>>> rdf:resource="#Collection"/> <rdfs:comment>The name by which a
>>> collection (e.g. series) is known.</rdfs:comment> <rdfs:subPropertyOf
>>> rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#label"/>
>>> </owl:DatatypeProperty>
>>>
>>> Changed to :
>>>
>>> <owl:DatatypeProperty rdf:ID="collectionName"> <rdfs:domain
>>> rdf:resource="#Collection"/> <rdfs:comment>The name by which a
>>> collection (e.g. series) is known.</rdfs:comment>
>>> </owl:DatatypeProperty>
>>>
>>> The updated RDF/OWL representation is available at
>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf
>>
>> So my understanding is that we had introduced a wrong line:
>> <rdfs:subPropertyOf
>> rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#label"/>
>>
>> I have changed your errata proposal to start the correction from the version from the spec to your latest version.
>>
>> see spec version
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/mediaont-10/#ont-owl
>>
>>
>> see new errata
>> https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata-temp1.html#E01
>>
>>
>> Let me know if this is good.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> 2/ E0XXX: Correction in the TTL representation of the Media Ontology
>>> in section 8
>>>
>>> Description:
>>>
>>> In the RDF/OWL representation of the Media Ontology, the property
>>> ma:collectionName is declared to be a subproperty of rdfs:label. This declaration is being removed to avoid problems of incompatibilities.
>>>
>>> Resolution:
>>>
>>> :collectionName a owl:DatatypeProperty; rdfs:comment "The name by
>>> which a collection (e.g. series) is known."; rdfs:domain :Collection;
>>> rdfs:subPropertyOf rdfs:label .
>>>
>>> Changed to :
>>>
>>> :collectionName a owl:DatatypeProperty, owl:Thing; rdfs:comment "The
>>> name by which a collection (e.g. series) is known."; rdfs:domain
>>> :Collection .
>>>
>>> The updated derived TTL representation is available at
>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl
>>
>>
>> So my understanding is that we had introduced a wrong line in the
>> former
>> errata:
>> rdfs:subPropertyOf rdfs:label
>>
>> see former errata
>> http://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata.html#E02
>>
>>
>> I have changed your errata proposal to start the correction from the version from the spec to your latest version.
>>
>>
>> see spec version
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/mediaont-10/#ont-ttl
>>
>>
>> see new errata
>> https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata-temp1.html#E02
>>
>>
>> Let me know if this is good.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> 3/ EOXXX: Correction in the RDF/OWL representation of the Media
>>> Ontology in section 7.3
>>>
>>> Description:
>>>
>>> In the RDF/OWL representation of the Media Ontology, the import reference to Dublin Core is broken.
>>>
>>> Resolution:
>>>
>>> <owl:imports rdf:resource="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"/>
>>>
>>> Changed to :
>>>
>>> <owl:imports
>>> rdf:resource="http://dublincore.org/2008/01/14/dcelements.rdf"/>
>>>
>>> The updated RDF/OWL representation is available at
>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf
>>
>>
>> I have added this new errata.
>> see new errata
>> https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata-temp1.html#E06
>>
>>
>>>
>>> 4/ EOXXX: Correction in the TTL representation of the Media Ontology
>>> in section 8
>>>
>>> Description:
>>>
>>> In the RDF/OWL representation of the Media Ontology, the import reference to Dublin Core is broken.
>>>
>>> Resolution:
>>>
>>> owl:imports dc:;
>>>
>>> Changed to :
>>>
>>> owl:imports <http://dublincore.org/2008/01/14/dcelements.rdf>;
>>>
>>> The updated derived TTL representation is available at
>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl
>>
>>
>> I have added this new errata.
>> see new errata
>> https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata-temp1.html#E07
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Evain, Jean-Pierre [mailto:evain@ebu.ch]
>>> Sent: vendredi, 22. mars 2013 09:02
>>> To: 'Thierry MICHEL'
>>> Cc: 'Joakim Soderberg'; public-media-annotation@w3.org
>>> Subject: RE: MAWG - update RDF
>>>
>>> One new errata will actually concern EO1 and will removed the
>>> subproperty declaration to rdfs:label in bothe the rdf and the
>>> derived ttl
>>>
>>> Another new errata will be the correction of the import reference to dc.rdf.
>>>
>>> Jean-Pierre
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Thierry MICHEL [mailto:tmichel@w3.org]
>>> Sent: vendredi, 22. mars 2013 08:30
>>> To: Evain, Jean-Pierre
>>> Cc: 'Joakim Soderberg'; public-media-annotation@w3.org
>>> Subject: Re: MAWG - update RDF
>>>
>>> And one more thing,
>>>
>>> The already existing errata at
>>> http://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata.html
>>>
>>> are also in the new files ?
>>> (I havn't check).
>>>
>>> Thierry
>>>
>>> On 22/03/2013 07:30, Evain, Jean-Pierre wrote:
>>>> Dear Michel,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for the instructions. We'll follow your recommendations.
>>>>
>>>> I hope the group will agree as the file is otherwsie not validating in particular because of a non persistent refernece from Dublin Core. But I would of course provide you with the detailed information needed for the errata.
>>>>
>>>> I guess we'll need to organise a MAWG call soon.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> jean-Pierre
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: Thierry MICHEL [tmichel@w3.org]
>>>> Sent: 21 March 2013 20:44
>>>> To: Evain, Jean-Pierre
>>>> Cc: 'Joakim Soderberg'; public-media-annotation@w3.org
>>>> Subject: Re: MAWG - update RDF
>>>>
>>>> Jean Pierre,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We have those two files included (nested)  in the Ontology for Media
>>>> Resources 1.0 Recommendation
>>>>
>>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/mediaont-10/#ont-owl
>>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/mediaont-10/#ont-ttl
>>>>
>>>> and also published at
>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf
>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If I update these two files there, then there will be a deferent
>>>> version in the Recommendation.
>>>>
>>>> The only way to solve this is to update these two files at
>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl
>>>>
>>>> and publish an errata with these changes at
>>>> http://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Therefore I need
>>>> 1- to have the Group to approve these changes.
>>>> 2- Know the exact changes to update the errata page.
>>>>
>>>> Is this OK ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thierry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 21/03/2013 17:13, Evain, Jean-Pierre wrote:
>>>>> Me too and I insist that these are corrections and not changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best, JP
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Joakim Soderberg [mailto:soderberg.pj@gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: jeudi, 21. mars 2013 16:40
>>>>> To: Evain, Jean-Pierre
>>>>> Cc: public-media-annotation@w3.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: MAWG - update RDF
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope it gets accepted. Thierry, will this have to be published as a separate version?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:23 AM, Evain, Jean-Pierre <evain@ebu.ch<mailto:evain@ebu.ch>> wrote:
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> A group of MAWG members are making a submission to an RFT from ISO/JPEG proposing to adopt our ma-ont ontology.
>>>>>
>>>>> This submission contains links to the rdf and ttl files accessible from:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf
>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl
>>>>>
>>>>> A couple of corrections have proved to be required with no impact on the ontology structure:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1/ surprisingly the reference to DublinCore in RDF (e.g. used for
>>>>> comments) was broken and had to be replaced 2/ the collectionName property used to be declared as a subclass of rdfs:label but this generates problems. Therefore collectionName is now just a dataProperty like for title, description, etc.
>>>>> 3/ we have added a comment saying that the rdf an ttl files take precedence over the specification, which contains a copy of the rdf file (and we think that the corrections made do not justify going through a revision of the specification itself).
>>>>>
>>>>> This work has been carried out in collaboration with Pierre-Antoine Champin (who also generated the ttl file) and Tobias Buerger.
>>>>>
>>>>> The corrected files are attached and we have asked Thierry Michel to upload these new versions in place of the existing ones.
>>>>>
>>>>> We hope that this is agreeable to all members of the MAWG.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jean-Pierre
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