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RE: MAWG - update RDF - PROPOSED TEXT FOR ERRATA

From: Evain, Jean-Pierre <evain@ebu.ch>
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:56:45 +0100
To: 'Thierry MICHEL' <tmichel@w3.org>
CC: "public-media-annotation@w3.org" <public-media-annotation@w3.org>, 'Joakim Söderberg' <joakim.soderberg@ericsson.com>, 'Pierre-Antoine Champin' <pierre-antoine.champin@liris.cnrs.fr>, "tobias@tobiasbuerger.com" <tobias@tobiasbuerger.com>
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Hello Thierry,

Great and thank-you.

Best regards,

Jean-pierre

-----Original Message-----
From: Thierry MICHEL [mailto:tmichel@w3.org]
Sent: mardi, 26. mars 2013 20:41
To: Evain, Jean-Pierre
Cc: public-media-annotation@w3.org; 'Joakim Söderberg'; 'Pierre-Antoine Champin'; tobias@tobiasbuerger.com
Subject: Re: MAWG - update RDF - PROPOSED TEXT FOR ERRATA

Jean Pierre,

See my comments in line.

On 23/03/2013 16:01, Evain, Jean-Pierre wrote:
> Hello Thierry,
>
> I see the logic behind updating E01 and E02. No problem.
>
> My additional comments:
>
> - In E01, please update the description with the updated text from PA
> Description: In the RDF/OWL representation of the Media Ontology, the property ma:collectionName is related to rdfs:label by rdfs:subClassOf relations, which is inconsistent with it being a property. This declaration has been removed for consistency and compatibility reasons.

Done
> - In E02, the highlighted owl:Thing is not needed I believe. It is the only occurrence in the file. None other dataProperty inherit from owl:Thing.
  removed owl:Thing
>
> IMPORTANT NOTE: Pierre-Antoine - can you see a reason why this happened only on collectionName when converting to TTL? Are we missing something somewhere that causes this to be generated when converting the rdf file to ttl?

I hope Pierre-Antoine agrees to it ;-)

> - In E02, please update the description with the updated text from PA
> Description: In the TTL representation of the Media Ontology, the property ma:collectionName is related to rdfs:label by rdfs:subClassOf relations, which is inconsistent with it being a property. This declaration has been removed for consistency and compatibility reasons.

Done

> - E06 is fine
>
> - E07 is fine
>
> Pierre-Antoine also sent an additional correction - IsRatingOf is
> capitalised in the specification when it shouldn't as well in the rdf
> and TTL files
>
> - NEW EOXXX: Correction in the RDF/XML of the case in property name
> isRatingOf
>
> Description:
>
> In the RDF/OWL property name isRatingOf is mispelled IsRatingOf (uppercase "i").
>
> Resolution:
>
> IsRatingOf
>
> Changed to :
>
> isRatingOf
>
> The updated derived RDF/XML representation is available at
> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf


New Errata added

>
> - NEW EOXXX: Correction in the TTL of the case in property name
> isRatingOf
>
> Description:
>
> In the TTL property name isRatingOf is mispelled IsRatingOf (uppercase "i").
>
> Resolution:
>
> IsRatingOf
>
> Changed to :
>
> isRatingOf
>
> The updated derived RDF/XML representation is available at
> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl

New Errata added

>
>
>
> And of course the files must be updated with the attached files (removed owl:Thing) unless PA screams :--) as he generated the TTL.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jean-pierre
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thierry MICHEL [mailto:tmichel@w3.org]
> Sent: vendredi, 22. mars 2013 18:06
> To: Evain, Jean-Pierre
> Cc: public-media-annotation@w3.org; 'Joakim Söderberg';
> 'Pierre-Antoine Champin'; tobias@tobiasbuerger.com
> Subject: Re: MAWG - update RDF - PROPOSED TEXT FOR ERRATA
>
> Jean Pierre,
>
> I had to deal with the errata a bit differently ...
>
> I have modified the former errata E01 and E02 I have added the errata
> E0- and E07
>
>
> Therefore, I have changed your email errata proposal for E01 and E02 to start the correction from the version *from the spec* (not from the former errata page) to your latest proposal.
>
> Therefore I have published a temporary errata page at
> https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata-temp1.html
>
> details of my updates in line, following.
>
>
> If you are OK with these errata proposal, I will update the errata page next week  (with the temporary one)
>    https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata.html
>
> and will publish the two new files at
>
> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf
> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl
>
> Thierry
>
>
>
> On 22/03/2013 09:47, Evain, Jean-Pierre wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Please find attached the new errata items addressing the changes made
>> to the rdf/owl and derived ttl files
>>
>> Please let me know if I missed something.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Jean-Pierre
>>
>> @@@@@@@@@@@
>>
>> NEW ERRATA ITEMS
>>
>> 1/ E0XXX: Correction in the RDF/OWL representation of the Media
>> Ontology in section 7.3
>>
>> Description:
>>
>> In the RDF/OWL representation of the Media Ontology, the property
>> ma:collectionName is declared to be a subproperty of rdfs:label. This declaration is being removed to avoid problems of incompatibilities.
>>
>> Resolution:
>>
>> <owl:DatatypeProperty rdf:ID="collectionName"> <rdfs:domain
>> rdf:resource="#Collection"/> <rdfs:comment>The name by which a
>> collection (e.g. series) is known.</rdfs:comment> <rdfs:subPropertyOf
>> rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#label"/>
>> </owl:DatatypeProperty>
>>
>> Changed to :
>>
>> <owl:DatatypeProperty rdf:ID="collectionName"> <rdfs:domain
>> rdf:resource="#Collection"/> <rdfs:comment>The name by which a
>> collection (e.g. series) is known.</rdfs:comment>
>> </owl:DatatypeProperty>
>>
>> The updated RDF/OWL representation is available at
>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf
>
> So my understanding is that we had introduced a wrong line:
> <rdfs:subPropertyOf
> rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#label"/>
>
> I have changed your errata proposal to start the correction from the version from the spec to your latest version.
>
> see spec version
> http://www.w3.org/TR/mediaont-10/#ont-owl
>
>
> see new errata
> https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata-temp1.html#E01
>
>
> Let me know if this is good.
>
>
>
>>
>> 2/ E0XXX: Correction in the TTL representation of the Media Ontology
>> in section 8
>>
>> Description:
>>
>> In the RDF/OWL representation of the Media Ontology, the property
>> ma:collectionName is declared to be a subproperty of rdfs:label. This declaration is being removed to avoid problems of incompatibilities.
>>
>> Resolution:
>>
>> :collectionName a owl:DatatypeProperty; rdfs:comment "The name by
>> which a collection (e.g. series) is known."; rdfs:domain :Collection;
>> rdfs:subPropertyOf rdfs:label .
>>
>> Changed to :
>>
>> :collectionName a owl:DatatypeProperty, owl:Thing; rdfs:comment "The
>> name by which a collection (e.g. series) is known."; rdfs:domain
>> :Collection .
>>
>> The updated derived TTL representation is available at
>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl
>
>
> So my understanding is that we had introduced a wrong line in the
> former
> errata:
> rdfs:subPropertyOf rdfs:label
>
> see former errata
> http://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata.html#E02
>
>
> I have changed your errata proposal to start the correction from the version from the spec to your latest version.
>
>
> see spec version
> http://www.w3.org/TR/mediaont-10/#ont-ttl
>
>
> see new errata
> https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata-temp1.html#E02
>
>
> Let me know if this is good.
>
>
>
>>
>> 3/ EOXXX: Correction in the RDF/OWL representation of the Media
>> Ontology in section 7.3
>>
>> Description:
>>
>> In the RDF/OWL representation of the Media Ontology, the import reference to Dublin Core is broken.
>>
>> Resolution:
>>
>> <owl:imports rdf:resource="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"/>
>>
>> Changed to :
>>
>> <owl:imports
>> rdf:resource="http://dublincore.org/2008/01/14/dcelements.rdf"/>
>>
>> The updated RDF/OWL representation is available at
>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf
>
>
> I have added this new errata.
> see new errata
> https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata-temp1.html#E06
>
>
>>
>> 4/ EOXXX: Correction in the TTL representation of the Media Ontology
>> in section 8
>>
>> Description:
>>
>> In the RDF/OWL representation of the Media Ontology, the import reference to Dublin Core is broken.
>>
>> Resolution:
>>
>> owl:imports dc:;
>>
>> Changed to :
>>
>> owl:imports <http://dublincore.org/2008/01/14/dcelements.rdf>;
>>
>> The updated derived TTL representation is available at
>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl
>
>
> I have added this new errata.
> see new errata
> https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata-temp1.html#E07
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Evain, Jean-Pierre [mailto:evain@ebu.ch]
>> Sent: vendredi, 22. mars 2013 09:02
>> To: 'Thierry MICHEL'
>> Cc: 'Joakim Soderberg'; public-media-annotation@w3.org
>> Subject: RE: MAWG - update RDF
>>
>> One new errata will actually concern EO1 and will removed the
>> subproperty declaration to rdfs:label in bothe the rdf and the
>> derived ttl
>>
>> Another new errata will be the correction of the import reference to dc.rdf.
>>
>> Jean-Pierre
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Thierry MICHEL [mailto:tmichel@w3.org]
>> Sent: vendredi, 22. mars 2013 08:30
>> To: Evain, Jean-Pierre
>> Cc: 'Joakim Soderberg'; public-media-annotation@w3.org
>> Subject: Re: MAWG - update RDF
>>
>> And one more thing,
>>
>> The already existing errata at
>> http://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata.html
>>
>> are also in the new files ?
>> (I havn't check).
>>
>> Thierry
>>
>> On 22/03/2013 07:30, Evain, Jean-Pierre wrote:
>>> Dear Michel,
>>>
>>> thanks for the instructions. We'll follow your recommendations.
>>>
>>> I hope the group will agree as the file is otherwsie not validating in particular because of a non persistent refernece from Dublin Core. But I would of course provide you with the detailed information needed for the errata.
>>>
>>> I guess we'll need to organise a MAWG call soon.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> jean-Pierre
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: Thierry MICHEL [tmichel@w3.org]
>>> Sent: 21 March 2013 20:44
>>> To: Evain, Jean-Pierre
>>> Cc: 'Joakim Soderberg'; public-media-annotation@w3.org
>>> Subject: Re: MAWG - update RDF
>>>
>>> Jean Pierre,
>>>
>>>
>>> We have those two files included (nested)  in the Ontology for Media
>>> Resources 1.0 Recommendation
>>>
>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/mediaont-10/#ont-owl
>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/mediaont-10/#ont-ttl
>>>
>>> and also published at
>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf
>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl
>>>
>>>
>>> If I update these two files there, then there will be a deferent
>>> version in the Recommendation.
>>>
>>> The only way to solve this is to update these two files at
>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl
>>>
>>> and publish an errata with these changes at
>>> http://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Therefore I need
>>> 1- to have the Group to approve these changes.
>>> 2- Know the exact changes to update the errata page.
>>>
>>> Is this OK ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thierry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21/03/2013 17:13, Evain, Jean-Pierre wrote:
>>>> Me too and I insist that these are corrections and not changes.
>>>>
>>>> Best, JP
>>>>
>>>> From: Joakim Soderberg [mailto:soderberg.pj@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: jeudi, 21. mars 2013 16:40
>>>> To: Evain, Jean-Pierre
>>>> Cc: public-media-annotation@w3.org
>>>> Subject: Re: MAWG - update RDF
>>>>
>>>> I hope it gets accepted. Thierry, will this have to be published as a separate version?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:23 AM, Evain, Jean-Pierre <evain@ebu.ch<mailto:evain@ebu.ch>> wrote:
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> A group of MAWG members are making a submission to an RFT from ISO/JPEG proposing to adopt our ma-ont ontology.
>>>>
>>>> This submission contains links to the rdf and ttl files accessible from:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf
>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl
>>>>
>>>> A couple of corrections have proved to be required with no impact on the ontology structure:
>>>>
>>>> 1/ surprisingly the reference to DublinCore in RDF (e.g. used for
>>>> comments) was broken and had to be replaced 2/ the collectionName property used to be declared as a subclass of rdfs:label but this generates problems. Therefore collectionName is now just a dataProperty like for title, description, etc.
>>>> 3/ we have added a comment saying that the rdf an ttl files take precedence over the specification, which contains a copy of the rdf file (and we think that the corrections made do not justify going through a revision of the specification itself).
>>>>
>>>> This work has been carried out in collaboration with Pierre-Antoine Champin (who also generated the ttl file) and Tobias Buerger.
>>>>
>>>> The corrected files are attached and we have asked Thierry Michel to upload these new versions in place of the existing ones.
>>>>
>>>> We hope that this is agreeable to all members of the MAWG.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Jean-Pierre
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