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RE: JSON response files for metadata formats

From: Evain, Jean-Pierre <evain@ebu.ch>
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 10:59:06 +0100
To: "'tmichel@w3.org'" <tmichel@w3.org>, 'Florian Stegmaier' <stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de>
CC: "public-media-annotation@w3.org" <public-media-annotation@w3.org>
Message-ID: <7D1656F54141C042A1B2556AE5237D6001129E431838@GVAMAIL.gva.ebu.ch>
Thanks, JP

-----Original Message-----
From: Thierry MICHEL [mailto:tmichel@w3.org] 
Sent: vendredi, 25. novembre 2011 09:11
To: Evain, Jean-Pierre; 'Florian Stegmaier'
Cc: public-media-annotation@w3.org
Subject: Re: JSON response files for metadata formats

Jean Pierre,

Your updated EBUCore XML and RDF files are now published in the Testsuite
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/testsuite.html


Florian,

I let you handle the JSON. You probably want to add it in the Wiki.

thanks,

Thiery


http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/testsuite.html


Le 24/11/2011 14:28, Evain, Jean-Pierre a écrit :
> I have updated the xml and rdf examples. RDF validates using the W3C validator.
>
> I have corrected the json file accordingly.
>
> JP
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Florian Stegmaier [mailto:stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de]
> Sent: jeudi, 24. novembre 2011 12:30
> To: Evain, Jean-Pierre
> Cc: public-media-annotation@w3.org
> Subject: Re: JSON response files for metadata formats
>
> Hi Jean-Pierre!
>
> Thank you for taking time for the examples. I think it would be really good to have the language information in the example and the RDF. I would also go for changing the language in the JSON file as you proposed.
>
> Best,
> Florian
> _____________________________
> Dipl. Inf. Florian Stegmaier
> Chair of Distributed Information Systems
> University of Passau
> Innstr. 43
> 94032 Passau
>
> Room 248 ITZ
>
> Tel.: +49 851 509 3063
> Fax: +49 851 509 3062
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> stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de
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> Am 24.11.2011 um 11:14 schrieb Evain, Jean-Pierre:
>
>> One more comment for the language issue.
>>
>> In order to reflect what I said before, the easiest way would be to provide a new xml example with the xml:lang attribute set to 'en' in the header (it exists in the schema but is not used in the current example). Correcting the RDF instance would mean adding the @en attribute to each "string". Then the mapping to JSON's language fields would be better established.
>>
>> JP
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Evain, Jean-Pierre [mailto:evain@ebu.ch]
>> Sent: jeudi, 24. novembre 2011 11:10
>> To: 'Florian Stegmaier'; public-media-annotation@w3.org
>> Subject: RE: JSON response files for metadata formats
>>
>> Dear Florian,
>>
>> As far as EBUCore is concerned, and in order to serve the JSON response more appropriately
>>
>> - I can enrich the xml example and the resulting RDF example which would allow to populate things like the language for title that is currently neither available in the xml nor in the RDF examples (but is in JSON ?:-) ->  I am not sure I have the time to do it in my XSLT right now but I can tweak the xml and rdf instances.
>>
>> In any case the metadata language is English. Spanish applies only to the 'spoken language in the content' ->  maybe just simpler to make the change in the JSON file (there is for instance nothing in ma-ont that specifies a language for creator as you can find it in the JSON file.
>>
>> - I should probably revised the mapping table for EBUCore to explain the mapping to the lang and typexxx attributes
>>
>> Otherwise, seems fine.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jean-Pierre
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Florian Stegmaier [mailto:stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de]
>> Sent: jeudi, 24. novembre 2011 09:56
>> To: public-media-annotation@w3.org
>> Subject: Re: JSON response files for metadata formats
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Currently, the JSON files are based on the example files. I had the same discussion yesterday with Werner. We came to the conclusion, that it is better to use the RDF files, since we would indirectly also test mappings if using the example files. I think it would be best to follow this way and to take the RDF files as basis and if further informations are needed - the example file can be also taken into account.
>>
>> I think we are really making a good progress with this!
>>
>> Best,
>> Florian
>> ____________________________
>> Dipl. Inf. Florian Stegmaier
>> Chair of Distributed Information Systems
>> University of Passau
>> Innstr. 43
>> 94032 Passau
>>
>> Room 248 ITZ
>>
>> Tel.: +49 851 509 3063
>> Fax: +49 851 509 3062
>>
>> stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de
>> https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/iris/
>> http://twitter.com/fstegmai
>> _____________________________
>>
>> Am 24.11.2011 um 09:29 schrieb Evain, Jean-Pierre:
>>
>>> Dear Florian,
>>>
>>> I am trying to finalise this now.
>>>
>>> The current version is fine but I am looking at possible further refinements. For this I'd like to know on what you based the JSON mapping: from the EBUCore xml example or from the RDF?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Jean-Pierre
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Florian Stegmaier [mailto:stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de]
>>> Sent: mercredi, 23. novembre 2011 11:13
>>> To: public-media-annotation@w3.org
>>> Subject: JSON response files for metadata formats
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> i have updated the JSON responses [1] with respect to the feedback provided by Jean-Pierre. It would be nice, if you could review the assigned JSON files, if they are consistent to the corresponding example file. Feel free to send me the needed changes and i will reflect it into the files. Note: Since it caused somehow confusions, this task is not coupled to one of the publishing dates.
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/TestSuite_implementation#Status
>>> _____________________________
>>> Dipl. Inf. Florian Stegmaier
>>> Chair of Distributed Information Systems
>>> University of Passau
>>> Innstr. 43
>>> 94032 Passau
>>>
>>> Room 248 ITZ
>>>
>>> Tel.: +49 851 509 3063
>>> Fax: +49 851 509 3062
>>>
>>> stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de
>>> https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/iris/
>>> http://twitter.com/fstegmai
>>> _____________________________
>>
>>
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