W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > public-lod@w3.org > March 2013

Re: Why is it bad practice to consume Linked Data and publish opaque HTML pages?

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:14:48 -0400
Message-ID: <51589938.6000807@openlinksw.com>
To: public-lod@w3.org
On 3/31/13 2:54 PM, Alan Ruttenberg wrote:
>
> All the CC-BY licenses require attribution in the a manner specified 
> by the licensor. What needs to be done is that if you release work 
> under a CC license you should specify that you consider the work 
> properly attributed if the licensee includes the original uri in their 
> publications.,
>
> The SA provision doesn't address the issue of how attribution is made. 
> Rather it stipulates that works that build upon a so licensed source 
> need to be themselves licensed in the same way. I'm not personally a 
> fan of this provision, but I understand it may be useful in selected 
> situations.
>
> Finally, it should be noted that you can only use a CC license if you 
> actually have some copy rights in the material you are releasing. In 
> the US, if the material is factual data , then it is not something 
> that can be copyrighted. And if you are producing LOD transliterations 
> of existing resources, you can't slap on a CC license unless the 
> source material is licensed in a manner that gives you the right to do 
> so (google my discussion of the license we see on linkedct.org 
> <http://linkedct.org> if you are curious about this aspect.)
>
> So licensing will only go so far.
>
> If people care about this, and I agree with Kingsley that they should, 
> they should consider articulating their views and including those 
> descriptions - not legally binding, but establishing a community norm 
> - in linked data they publish. Aggregators, reviewers,  search tools, 
> users of linked data should pay attention to uses to check  and make 
> (public) noise when those norms are flouted. Tutorials and Courses 
> that teach about how to make linked data should include education 
> about these norms.
>
> In academia, citation is not mandated by license or law, but by norms, 
> and it is pretty darned effective. it could become the case that norms 
> are similarly effective in the lod community.
>

+1000...


Kingsley
>
> Alan
>
> On Mar 31, 2013 1:20 PM, "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com 
> <mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 3/31/13 7:42 AM, Dominic wrote:
>>
>>
>>     Should this be stipulated as part of a license agreement?
>
>     CC-BY-SA is an example of such a license.
>
>     Kingsley
>>
>>     Dominic
>>
>>
>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     *From:* Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
>>     <mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com>
>>     *To:* "public-lod@w3.org" <mailto:public-lod@w3.org>
>>     <public-lod@w3.org> <mailto:public-lod@w3.org>
>>     *Sent:* Saturday, 30 March 2013, 14:35
>>     *Subject:* Why is it bad practice to consume Linked Data and
>>     publish opaque HTML pages?
>>
>>     All,
>>
>>     " Citing sources is useful for many reasons: (a) it shows that it
>>     isn't a half-baked idea I just pulled out of thin air, (b) it
>>     provides a reference for anybody who wants to dig into the
>>     subject, and (c) it shows where the ideas originated and how
>>     they're likely to evolve." -- John F. Sowa [1].
>>
>>     An HTTP URI is an extremely powerful citation and attribution
>>     mechanism. Incorporate Linked Data principles and the power
>>     increases exponentially.
>>
>>     It is okay to consume Linked Data from wherever and publish HTML
>>     documents based on source data modulo discoverable original
>>     sources Linked Data URIs.
>>
>>     It isn't okay, to consume publicly available Linked Data from
>>     sources such as the LOD cloud and then republish the extracted
>>     content using HTML documents, where the original source Linked
>>     Data URIs aren't undiscoverable by humans or machines.
>>
>>     The academic community has always had a very strong regard for
>>     citations and source references. Thus, there's no reason why the
>>     utility of Linked Data URIs shouldn't be used to reinforce this
>>     best-practice, at Web-scale .
>>
>>     Links:
>>
>>     1.
>>     http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2013-03/msg00084.html
>>     -- ontolog list post .
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Regards,
>>
>>     Kingsley Idehen
>>     Founder & CEO
>>     OpenLink Software
>>     Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com <http://www.openlinksw.com/>
>>     Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
>>     <http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/%7Ekidehen>
>>     Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen
>>     Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about
>>     LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>     -- 
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Kingsley Idehen	
>     Founder & CEO
>     OpenLink Software
>     Company Web:http://www.openlinksw.com
>     Personal Weblog:http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen  <http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/%7Ekidehen>
>     Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen
>     Google+ Profile:https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about
>     LinkedIn Profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen
>
>
>
>


-- 

Regards,

Kingsley Idehen	
Founder & CEO
OpenLink Software
Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen
Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about
LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen







Received on Sunday, 31 March 2013 20:15:13 UTC

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.3.1 : Wednesday, 7 January 2015 15:16:31 UTC