Re: Change Proposal for HttpRange-14

Michael,

On 25 Mar 2012, at 11:03, Michael Brunnbauer wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 10:13:09AM +0100, Jeni Tennison wrote:
>> I agree we shouldn't blame publishers who conflate IRs and NIRs. That is not what happens at the moment. Therefore we need to change something.
> 
> Do you think semantic web projects have been stopped because some purist
> involved did not see a way to bring httprange14 into agreement with the
> other intricacies of the project ? Those purists will still see the new
> options that the proposal offers as what they are: Suboptimal.

What would be optimal in your view?

> Or do you think some purists have been actually blaming publishers ? What will
> stop them in the future to complain like this: Hey, your website consists
> solely of NIRs, I cannot talk about it! Please use 303.

Nothing. In fact TimBL has already said this [1], and Jonathan has pointed out what such people will have to do to make those kinds of statements [2]. This is already listed as a disadvantage in the proposal. I recognise it's a disadvantage, I just think it is worth the hit compared to the advantages of the change.

> You are solving the problem by pretending that the IRs are not there then
> the publisher does not make the distinction between IR and NIR.

No, I am just proposing stopping pretending that the NIR is not there, which is what is mandated by the current httpRange-14 design.

> Maybe we can optimize the wording of standards and best practise guides to 
> something like "these are the optimal solutions. Many people also do it this 
> way but this has the following drawbacks..."


Yes, as I argued here [3] I strongly believe that casting the separation of IR and NIR as a best practice rather than a vital necessity is the right way to go.

Cheers,

Jeni

[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lod/2012Mar/0143.html
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lod/2012Mar/0144.html
[3] http://www.jenitennison.com/blog/node/159
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Received on Sunday, 25 March 2012 11:31:44 UTC