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Re: What would you build with a web of data?

From: Aldo Bucchi <aldo.bucchi@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:05:46 -0400
Message-Id: <00548AC7-C351-4E27-87D7-D068A5318B07@gmail.com>
To: Georgi Kobilarov <georgi.kobilarov@gmx.de>
Cc: Bernard Vatant <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>, public-lod <public-lod@w3.org>
Hi

On Apr 9, 2010, at 11:45, "Georgi Kobilarov" <georgi.kobilarov@gmx.de>  
wrote:

> Hi Aldo,
>
>> Georgi you are mistaken. Links to resources or even simple things  
>> such as
>> reusing labels are already saving me time and money when building  
>> apps for
>> customers.
>
> well, do we then really need all that sophisticated rdf data? If it  
> comes down to reusing labels?

1. It is not complex! Rdf is very basic, least common denominator for  
a webby graph model
2. We need RDF or similar to cover diverse verticals. Anything less  
does not scale

>
>
>> in reality I get more than labels, I get maps, relations, etc which  
>> otherwise
>> would have been costly to attain.
>
> Are you describing an application of linked open data, or just open  
> data?

A linked data intranet. They used to have a combo box with countries.
They now have a map an detail pages for each country in multiple  
languages integrated to the intranet.
Same for other "seconday entities"

All I did was owl:sameAs to dbpedia and virtuoso sponge

>
>
>> Also, the exploration of datasets by jumping links is a great way  
>> to attain
>> insights an ideas. Intranet-wise, linkeddata is a killer app and I  
>> have hard,
>> front line evidence.
>
> Please, share your evidence...

Will blog

>
> Cheers,
> Georgi
>
>
>> On Apr 9, 2010, at 11:13, "Georgi Kobilarov"  
>> <georgi.kobilarov@gmx.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bernard,
>>>
>>> well, why did I ask people to write about their ideas for apps?
>>> My observation is that there are zero real apps using linked open  
>>> data
>>> (i.e.
>>> data from "the cloud"). Not even a single one. Null.
>>> After 3 years of "linking open data"...
>>>
>>> There are applications that re-use identifiers, and there are
>>> applications that use single, hand-picked data sources.  But let's  
>>> be
>>> honest, that's not "using the linked data cloud". So, why's that?
>>> There must be a reason. Which part of the ecosystem sucks?
>>>
>>> In my opinion we won't get to solve that question if we stick to
>>> "linked data will save the planet, one day". But instead, figure out
>>> which apps people would want to build now, and then see why it's not
>>> possible.
>>> If it
>>> doesn't work on the small scale of some simple app, how will linked
>>> data ever save our planet?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Georgi
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Bernard Vatant [mailto:bernard.vatant@mondeca.com]
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 12:25 PM
>>>> To: Georgi Kobilarov
>>>> Cc: public-lod
>>>> Subject: Re: What would you build with a web of data?
>>>>
>>>> Hi Georgi
>>>> Copying below the comment I just posted on ReadWriteWeb. Looks  
>>>> like a
>>>> rant, but could have been worse ... I could have added that if the
>>>> Web of Data is used to find out more cute cats images, well, I  
>>>> wonder
>>>> what I do
>>> on
>>>> this boat.
>>>> I'm amazed, not to say frightened, by the egocentrism and lack of
>>>> imagination of the applications proposed so far. Will the Web of  
>>>> Data
>>>> be
>>> an
>>>> effective tool for tackling our planet critical issues, or just
>>>> another
>>> toy for
>>>> spoiled children of the Web?
>>>> I would like to see the Web of Data enable people anywhere in the
>>>> world to find out smart, sustainable and low-cost solutions to  
>>>> their
>>>> local
>>> development
>>>> issues. What are the success (or failure) stories in e.g., farming,
>>>> water
>>> supply,
>>>> energy, education, health etc. in environments similar to mine,
>>>> anywhere
>>> in
>>>> the world? Something along the lines of http://www.wiserearth.org  
>>>> (of
>>>> which data, BTW would be great to have in the Linked Data cloud).
>>>> Best
>>>> Bernard
>>>>
>>>> 2010/4/9 Georgi Kobilarov <georgi.kobilarov@gmx.de> Yesterday  
>>>> issued
>>>> a challenge on my blog for ideas for concrete linked open data
>>>> applications. Because talking about concrete apps helps shaping the
>>>> roadmap for the technical questions for the linked data community
>>>> ahead.
>>>> The
>>>> real questions, not the theoretical ones...
>>>>
>>>> Richard MacManus of ReadWriteWeb picked up the challenge:
>>>>
>> http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/web_of_data_what_would_you_
>>>> build.php
>>>>
>>>> Let's be creative about stuff we'd build with the web of data.
>>>> Assume the
>>>> Linked Data Web would be there already, what would build?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Georgi
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Georgi Kobilarov
>>>> Uberblic Labs Berlin
>>>> http://blog.georgikobilarov.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Bernard Vatant
>>>> Senior Consultant
>>>> Vocabulary & Data Engineering
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>>>
>>>
>
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