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Re: Pubs data

From: Tom Heath <tom.heath@talis.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:19:27 +0000
Message-ID: <89f622f10903060719t6385f826kd6587ecd73f4b20f@mail.gmail.com>
To: Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>
Cc: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>, John Goodwin <John.Goodwin@ordnancesurvey.co.uk>, public-lod@w3.org, Martin Poulter <M.L.Poulter@bristol.ac.uk>
Hi Dan, Aldo, and Martin :)

Very interesting stuff, thanks.

On this kind of note, one of the goals of Revyu was to enable the
short-circuiting of impartial (or at least less trusted) reviews,
precisely because of the tie-in with FOAF-based social networking.
Take reviews of this pub for example
<http://revyu.com/things/shoulder-of-mutton-calverton-milton-keynes-accommodation>;
I want to use my social network to filter out those reviews from
people furthest away from me in the network, or at least those people
with whom I have least affinity. The site <http://hoonoh.com/> is a
step in the right direction (more details in my thesis) [1] (if you'll
excuse the self-promotion), but data sparsity (and performance ;) are
still a real issue.

Cheers,

Tom.

[1] http://tomheath.com/thesis


2009/3/6 Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>:
> On 6/3/09 15:25, Tom Heath wrote:
>
>> The most comparable experience from Revyu involved a review of a
>> garage; it's documented here in a way that prevents this blogger being
>> sued but retains the text online (and tells the account of the threats
>> received); note how the text is constructed:
>>
>> http://doodznchyx.wordpress.com/2007/06/20/mot-mechanic-in-milton-keynes-chilling-free-speech/
>
> Interesting case. I wonder whether OpenID might (eventually...) improve the
> landscape here by offering a relatively lightweight "right of reply"
> mechanism.
>
> 1. If the review entry includes the URI for the homepage of the garage (pub,
> restaurant, etc...).
>
> 2. ... and that homepage contains OpenID delegation markup.
>
> For example, in danbri.org I have this pointing to my Yahoo identity. A
> homepage for an organization could do this directly or indirectly.
>
> The markup is something like this:
>    <link rel="openid2.provider"
> href="https://open.login.yahooapis.com/openid/op/auth" />
>    <link rel="openid2.local_id" href="https://me.yahoo.com/danbri3" />
>
> 3. ... the review could say "Does this review talk about you, your business
> or product? If you can prove you control that page, you can log in now and
> give your side of the story..."
> (and contain help / wizard code to help folk add the openid markup if
> needed).
>
> 4. Downstream parties that have syndicated the review, can also take a
> stream of data that includes OpenID-verified responses from the reviewed
> party. This might range from "yeah, we had a really slack staff member who
> is no longer with us", through "oops, sorry! we'll try to do better" to "the
> reviewer has a personal grudge, is harassing us, ... and we're pursuing this
> in court".
>
> These counter-points, to the extent *they* mention other parties and
> entities, should also be fair game for right-to-reply also. And again I
> think OpenID offers an appropriate piece of technology for establishing the
> provenance of those claims.
>
> Yes OpenID can be a bit hard to use, explain and sometimes doesn't even
> work, but it's the best we have so far. And there are a lot of
> OpenID-enabled accounts out there...
>
> thoughts?
>
> Dan
>
>
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