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Re: More ESWC 2008 Linked Data Playground

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:25:22 -0400
Message-ID: <484E9CE2.9080709@openlinksw.com>
To: Sean Bechhofer <sean.bechhofer@manchester.ac.uk>
CC: Chris Bizer <chris@bizer.de>, David Huynh <dfhuynh@alum.mit.edu>, Aldo Bucchi <aldo.bucchi@gmail.com>, Daniel Schwabe <dschwabe@inf.puc-rio.br>, knud.moeller@deri.org, Paul Kreis <Paul.Kreis@gmx.de>, public-lod@w3.org

Sean Bechhofer wrote:
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> On 10 Jun 2008, at 07:55, Chris Bizer wrote:
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>> Hi all,
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>> some quick comments on this thread:
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>> 1. I'm currently swamped with work. Therefore getting the final 
>> version of the ESWC dataset (including some bug fixes, updated ESWC 
>> conf data website, ...) out won't happen before the end of the week. 
>> The same is true for the WWW2008 dataset.
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> I think Chris and Daniel have said it all, but I'm going to stick in 
> my two penn'orth. The main task of the organisers of the conference is 
> to organise the conference. Bluntly speaking, although I personally 
> think the publication of SW data is important (and spent a great deal 
> of my own time on it for ESWC07), it's a side issue, and there are 
> other, timely things that we need(ed) to spend our time on.
>
> There was a small team doing the local organisation and they were 
> working pretty damn hard last week to handle a number of issues -- 
> please note I'm not talking about myself here, but the people managing 
> the day to day running of the event, who also happened to be 
> responsible for the website. So yes it may be "just about adding a 
> line to some HTML", but occasionally there just isn't enough resource 
> to even get simple things done immediately. There are only 24 hours in 
> the day, and it's good to sleep for some of them :-).
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> The data set has been produced -- Chris and his team did a great job 
> this year -- and ultimately, we /will/ have things linked up.
>
>     Sean
>
> -- 
> Sean Bechhofer
> School of Computer Science
> University of Manchester
> sean.bechhofer@manchester.ac.uk
> http://www.cs.manchester.ac.uk/people/bechhofer
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Sean et al,

I think moving forward we should make a concerted effort to encourage 
Semantic Web event organizers to embrace "Dog-fooding" .

For instance, I am at Linked Data Planet, and although I don't control 
the events Web Site, I can certainly ensure that Linked Data for this 
event makes it to the Web., and that the event Web site provides a 
valuable conduit to the associated Linked Data. The approach I am taking 
somewhat similar to what Chris and Co. have just done re. ESW2008, but 
with my own specific twists (which will be explained once completed 
should some of my posts and commentary not reveal vital clues).  I am 
hoping that this effort will demonstrate an approach we can adopt going 
forward re. other events (i.e. relevant LOD members reach out to event 
organizers), especially when the event organizers are part of the Web 
User audience that we are trying to expose to the Linked Data virtues.

Here is the approach I would suggest:

1. Ping organizers letting them know that their site should be a 
virtuous demonstration of the event's core theme
2. Determine what's practical re. Content Negotiation, <link 
rel="".../>, GRDDL, RDFa
3. Use the Linked Data enabled site as a showcase, so in the case of 
Linked Data Planet the goal is for it to play nice with the Linked Data 
Web on or before  next Sunday.

David: I know you want to close this thread, but I am  sure you can see 
that discourse is invaluable, no matter how heated things may get.  Our 
individuality is inherently the key to our commonality, disagreements 
are good, since they are fundamental indicators of interest and passion. 
We achieve nothing, without interest and passion!  Please keep talking 
about this important matter.  :-)

-- 


Regards,

Kingsley Idehen	      Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
President & CEO 
OpenLink Software     Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
Received on Tuesday, 10 June 2008 15:37:03 UTC

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