W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > public-lod@w3.org > August 2008

RE: freebase parallax: user interface for browsing graphs of data

From: Georgi Kobilarov <gkob@gmx.de>
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:50:21 +0200
Message-ID: <180C011CD4FF654AB4B73A9A5AD7472C0A48A7@aristoteles.zuhause.lan>
To: "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Cc: <public-lod@w3.org>, <semantic-web@w3c.org>

Kingsley,

> Visualizations are good, but graph visualizations are not the sole
keys
> to the treasures that reside within a Graph.

It's not about graph visualization. It's about user interaction for
graph-based data.

Georgi

--
Georgi Kobilarov
Freie Universitšt Berlin
www.georgikobilarov.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-lod-request@w3.org [mailto:public-lod-request@w3.org] On
> Behalf Of Kingsley Idehen
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:43 PM
> To: Richard H. McCullough
> Cc: David Huynh; public-lod@w3.org; semantic-web@w3c.org
> Subject: Re: freebase parallax: user interface for browsing graphs of
> data
> 
> 
> Richard H. McCullough wrote:
> >
> > Very nice!!!
> >
> > How is your knowledge base structured?  What language?
> >
> > Can I download your program to my computer?
> >
> > Dick McCullough
> > Ayn Rand do speak od mKR done;
> > mKE do enhance od Real Intelligence done;
> > knowledge := man do identify od existent done;
> > knowledge haspart proposition list;
> > http://mKRmKE.org/
> David,
> 
> For purpose of clarity and broader discourse (I know we've been over
> this in private), what is the Linked Data and/or Semantic Web oriented
> value of this very cool visualization?
> 
> Put differently, it would be nice if I could beam a query down the
data
> graph exposed by you very nice visualization rather than being
confined
> to the options presented by your application.
> 
> At the very least, what's the harm in exposing the Freebase URLs in
> these Web Pages? If you do that, at the very least, other user agents
> can do stuff with the graphs (Linked Data) that you are visualizing.
> The cost of this little tweak is extremely low and the upside
extremely
> high.
> 
> Cool stuff for sure, but I would like Parallax to be a nice Linked
Data
> Web contribution also :-)  Freebase (basic) is part of the Web, but
> Parallax is sort of confining me to a Freebase enclave by not exposing
> URLs (where I currently see: javascript:{}).
> 
> 
> My fundamental argument remains this:
> 
> Visualizations are good, but graph visualizations are not the sole
keys
> to the treasures that reside within a Graph. Effective traversal (e.g.
> query beaming SPARQL or MQL) is also part of the puzzle, and it would
> be
> nice if we could always offer the visualization and the
> graph-query-beam-beachhead as part of a single Web information
resource
> deliverable. There are always reasons why one or more humans (due
> inherent cognitive prowess) would seek to view the same data
> differently, no matter how compelling the initial visualization, due
to
> the fact that data visualizations are inherently subjective
> projections.
> 
> Links:
> 
> 1. http://tinyurl.com/5of2qu - Abraham Lincoln as Linked Data from
> Freebase  ( I get no triples with Parallax pages since the Freebase
> Data
> Sources aren't exposed)
> 
> Note: The Freebase RDFization Cartridge (Wrapper, Scrapper etc.) will
> be
> better i.e., right now there are too many literal property values that
> should be URIs (this fix is coming). Ditto proper lookup driven
meshing
> with DBpedia.
> 
> 
> Kingsley
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Huynh"
> <dfhuynh@alum.mit.edu>
> > To: <public-lod@w3.org>; <semantic-web@w3c.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 3:11 PM
> > Subject: freebase parallax: user interface for browsing graphs of
> data
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I've been exploring some user interface ideas for browsing graphs
> (of
> >> data in Freebase) in a user-friendly way, which I think might be
> >> applicable to some of the data that you have. The screencast should
> >> explain:
> >>
> >>    http://mqlx.com/~david/parallax/
> >>
> >> Please let me know what you think!
> >>
> >> Thank you.
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Kingsley Idehen	      Weblog:
http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
> President & CEO
> OpenLink Software     Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
> 
> 
> 
Received on Thursday, 14 August 2008 11:51:03 UTC

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.3.1 : Sunday, 31 March 2013 14:24:17 UTC