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Re: Developing LinkedData.org

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:58:05 -0400
Message-ID: <480613FD.9070606@openlinksw.com>
To: Tom Heath <Tom.Heath@talis.com>
CC: public-lod@w3.org

Tom Heath wrote:
> Hi all,
> Thanks for all the responses on this topic, and the offers of assistance
> - great to see people's enthusiasm for taking this forward :)
> Distilling the comments/responses so far...
> 1) Static content: I'll work up a more concrete proposal for this and
> circulate.
> 2) Planet: I'll do the same, and work up a plan for implementing this.
> Re Yves' question about a list of feeds, this page on the wiki seems
> like a good place to start:
> http://community.linkeddata.org/MediaWiki/index.php?Listing_of_Blogs
At the very least we can use del.icio.us to tag relevant blogs.

Once that is done you simply import into ODS-Feeds and you have Linked 
Data. You also have OPML, RSS, and Atom. Only actions are:

1. Tag in del.icio.us
2. Bind you ODS-Feeds instance to del.icio.us
3. Sync happens
4. Linked Data happens
5. Everything is de-referencable via owners URI or actual Aggregated 
Feeds Data Space URI

The only thing missing for a Plant Blog re. ODS-Blog is that we assumed 
that a Linked Data corpus would open up User Agents to their choice of 
presentation. Since this clearly is a little ahead of time, I'll have 
the "Related" feature of ODS-Blog also automatically produce posts from 
the "Related" blogs feeds. The net effect is a "Community Blog" (which 
is what Planet Blogs are).

Of course, this is optional (as is everything else in the Linked Data 
Space) :-)

> 3) Community site/wiki: it seems that this is well underway - fantastic
> :) Sergey, I'll leave you to liaise with Kingsley, Mike and Michael
> about this, as they have the means to make it all happen. 
> David, your Drupal suggestion was very much noted. Did you envisage this
> serving the "community" function? I'd be keen to give the ODS install at
> community.linkeddata a good go. This work ok for you?
I can instantiate Drupal (if not already done).

It will be at: http://community.linkeddata.org/drupal  (just like: 
http://demo.openlinksw.com/drupal )
URIs will of the form 
http://community.linkeddata.org/drupal/<drupal-account>#this  (just 
like: http://demo.openlinksw.com/drupal/user/demo#this )

Mike: If you like you can enable Drupal via the conductor, just go to 
Admin|Packages and then check the Drupal box, and then click on 
"Install" and you're done :-)
> One request, Kingsley: can we tweak the MediaWiki config to get prettier
> URIs for the pages in the wiki?
Of course :-)
> Sensitivity in moving content from ESW seems very important. Does the
> community at large agree that moving this content across is desirable in
> the long run?
We shouldn't move the data, remember, we are the Data Access by 
Reference Tribe :-)  Just ensure we maintain Links at relevant levels.

At some point MoinMoin will get the WikiMedia treatment re. RDF Views 
(by us or someone else), and this which bode well for the density of the 
Linked Data Subject Matter graphs.

> OK, more soon :)
> Cheers all,
> Tom.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: public-lod-request@w3.org 
>> [mailto:public-lod-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Tom Heath
>> Sent: 14 April 2008 12:00
>> To: public-lod@w3.org
>> Subject: Developing LinkedData.org
>> Hi all,
>> Last year, as it was clear that the Linked Data meme was 
>> spreading, I registered the domain linkeddata.org in order to 
>> be sure that it was in safe hands within the community. Since 
>> that time I have made a few efforts to place some meaningful 
>> links at the domain in the hope that they will be useful, but 
>> haven't had the time to do more with it except set up 
>> subdomains to use for events and the new 
>> community.linkeddata.org area.
>> Mike Bergman recently pointed out that with the momentum 
>> behind Linked Data growing all the time it's becoming 
>> increasingly important that we use this domain effectively as 
>> a focal point for the community, a home for useful resources, 
>> and a marketing tool to help encourage the spread of Linked Data.
>> I'm happy to continue administering the domain on behalf of 
>> the community, and Mike and I have had some initial ideas 
>> about how we as a community may use the domain, but as active 
>> members of the Linked Data community we would really value 
>> your comments/suggestions/input about how we might move this 
>> forward. This email is intended to be the start of a dialogue 
>> on this topic.
>> The kind of ideas/structure we came up with breaks down in 
>> the following
>> way:
>> 1) (fairly) Static content: such as information about Linked 
>> Data; links to key resources endorsed by the community; 
>> badges people could use on their own sites to promote their 
>> support for/publication of Linked Data; the "cloud" diagram, 
>> if Richard is in favour of moving or mirroring this.
>> 2) Planet Linked Data: blog aggregator on the subject of 
>> Linked Data, in the style of PlanetRDF (with strong cross 
>> links to the Linked Data Planet conference, to avoid confusion!)
>> 3) Community editable content: using the 
>> community.linkeddata.org area, this could link to a broader 
>> range of resources, datasets and sites, tools, best 
>> practices, projects, publications, etc etc, plus any other 
>> aspects that people might wish to use from the ODS 
>> installation. I don't know how others feel, but I for one 
>> feel that we're outgrowing the space on the ESW wiki and 
>> would benefit to moving this somewhere with more room for expansion.
>> With content in all these areas, the home page at 
>> linkeddata.org could simply be pointers to other locations, 
>> plus fresh content from the Planet and the wiki.
>> Whatever we decide to offer at linkeddata.org in general, it 
>> would be essential that we distribute the authoring and 
>> maintenance load among a number of people, so that a) no one 
>> person becomes a bottleneck, and b) that the site is well 
>> rooted in the community at large.
>> It's worth noting that Mike has raised the possibility of 
>> Zitgist contributing some resources to this effort, perhaps 
>> to help with design work or other skills that we don't 
>> necessarily have in great abundance between us ;) Some 
>> support from Talis is also a possibility.
>> So, that's the background. Please be free, open and honest 
>> with comments and feedback, on any aspect of this issue. My 
>> hope is that we can come up with a rough proposal asap, 
>> hopefully in enough time to make some kind of announcement at 
>> LDOW2008 in Beijing.
>> Very much looking forward to hearing your thoughts,
>> Cheers,
>> Tom.
>> --
>> Tom Heath
>> Researcher
>> Platform Team
>> Talis Information Ltd
>> T: 0870 400 5000
>> W: http://www.talis.com/platform



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