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Re: Question about MARCXML to Models transformation

From: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 10:43:13 -0800
Message-ID: <20110306104313.23211sfy6xxkg1xd@kcoyle.net>
To: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
Cc: public-lld@w3.org
Quoting Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>:

> Yes, and a crucial one! With such a move, library data will be much  
> more useful for the linked data crowds.
> Out of my head I can foresee two scenarios:
> 1. change of cataloging behaviour, with catalogers really connecting  
> books and other resources to (identifiers of) real world entities.
> 2. keep the cataloging behaviour, but try to have the text values  
> (or authorities, or whatever name for proxies we want to come with  
> ;-) ) related to real-world entities. A bit like what VIAF is trying  
> to do--starting from library data alone, though.

Yes, these make sense to me as the main options.

> But I'm really wondering why 1 would not be possible for quite  
> easily identifiable entities like places and persons. With some  
> basic tools that use existing linked data sources like Geonames, you  
> could easily get something like a "did you mean  
> http://sws.geonames.org/2988507/?" question (with a better  
> interface, of course) that a cataloger can answer by yes or no, when  
> "Paris" is filled in as place of publication.
> That would maybe not always work--especially for the "Paris" that  
> are not the true one in my heart :-p.

Uh, let me guess...  :-)

But in many cases that would still
> be useful, and appropriately exploit what catalogers are doing, I  
> believe. I mean, the ones I have met were smart people, they must  
> think of the place itself while filling in the name of it. That  
> seems a quick win. Or am I really wrong?

I think if systems could make it very easy, then the people creating  
metadata would probably be willing to add the data. Yet at least  
initially this must be "added" data that does not replace the data  
that the cataloging rules require. Eventually I think that the concept  
of cataloging might change and the need to transcribe may become less  
important for modern materials (it can still be key for older works),  
especially where the "thing" and the text are close enough to be  
represented by one data element.

This "added" data is really the equivalent of the coded values in  
MARC, in my mind. Where possible, systems need to create short-cuts so  
that catalogers do not have to fill in both the text value and the  
coded value (most of what is coded in MARC is redundant with data in  
the textual fields). We need to make it so that catalogers have to do  
*less* not *more* if we wish to get them on board. That's only fair.


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