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Re: Linked Data URIs in MARC Authorities

From: Ross Singer <ross.singer@talis.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 15:53:22 -0400
Message-ID: <AANLkTinxEtaRKK5OJnC09sv85_YttLa4eTn=7K-YWprS@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Young,Jeff (OR)" <jyoung@oclc.org>
Cc: Martin Malmsten <Martin.Malmsten@kb.se>, public-lld@w3.org
Jeff,

The 1xx$0 is actually used in bib records (not authority) and is defined as:
$0 - Authority record control number (R)

http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd100.html

It seems applicable, but the context it would be used in would sort of
imply the opposite meaning than what it does in bibliographic records.

-Ross.

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Young,Jeff (OR) <jyoung@oclc.org> wrote:
> Martin,
>
> I can believe that "the 1XX identifies what the record is *about*" and would challenge anyone to argue otherwise.
>
> What is your argument for choosing $0 rather than $u? Neither are currently specified and $u appears to be commonly used for URIs in other fields:
>
> http://www.loc.gov/marc/856guide.html#other_fields
>
> Jeff
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Martin Malmsten [mailto:Martin.Malmsten@kb.se]
>> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 3:32 PM
>> To: Young,Jeff (OR)
>> Cc: public-lld@w3.org
>> Subject: Re: Linked Data URIs in MARC Authorities
>>
>> Jeff,
>>
>> I understand, but would not putting a $0 in the 1XX accomplish just
>> that since the 1XX identifies what the record is "about"? I'm just
>> saying that by using $0 you could link to other things (or Things) from
>> other parts of the record as well.
>>
>> However, we do actually use 856 with a $z in our production environment
>> today. It works, but I do not like the amount of implicit information
>> with this (or rather our version of this) solution.
>>
>> Example:
>> 100 '1' ' ' $aStrindberg, August, $d1849-1912
>> 856 '4' '8' $uhttp://viaf.org/viaf/54154627 $zVIAF
>>
>> /martin
>>
>> On Oct 1, 2010, at 8:54 PM, Young,Jeff (OR) wrote:
>>
>> > Martin,
>> >
>> > I think our use cases are getting mixed up. I want a place to
>> identify the thing the Authority record (as a whole) represents.
>> Linking to *other* things inside a MARC record is a harder and more
>> controversial problem as Michael's response indicates. I'm hoping this
>> is low-hanging fruit, but I admit the difference is subtle.
>> >
>> > Jeff
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Martin Malmsten [mailto:Martin.Malmsten@kb.se]
>> >> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 2:36 PM
>> >> To: Young,Jeff (OR)
>> >> Cc: public-lld@w3.org
>> >> Subject: Re: Linked Data URIs in MARC Authorities
>> >>
>> >> Jeff, Karen.
>> >>
>> >> I prefer a subfield over a field because may I want to link only
>> parts
>> >> of the record, and not necessarily the 1XX-field, to another
>> resource
>> >> without having to resort to a $8-link (*shudder*).
>> >>
>> >> Example:
>> >> 150 ' ' ' ' $aMödrar
>> >> 750 ' ' '0' $aMothers $0
>> >> http://id.loc.gov/authorities/sh85087526#concept
>> >>
>> >> /martin
>> >>
>> >> On Oct 1, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Young,Jeff (OR) wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> How about this:
>> >>>
>> >>> 856 4# $u http://example.org/foo
>> >>>
>> >>> Here's the documentation for the field:
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ad856.html
>> >>> http://www.loc.gov/marc/856guide.html
>> >>>
>> >>> Jeff
>> >>>
>> >>> From: Martin Malmsten [mailto:Martin.Malmsten@kb.se]
>> >>> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 12:26 PM
>> >>> To: Young,Jeff (OR)
>> >>> Cc: public-lld@w3.org
>> >>> Subject: Re: Linked Data URIs in MARC Authorities
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm considering/testing $0 in the 1XX fields, analogues to $0 in
>> the
>> >> bib record. The idea is that a DbPedia/Freebase/VIAF URI could
>> >> authorise an authority record. "Global headings change" becomes a
>> fun
>> >> challenge with LD URIs within the record :)
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>
>> >>> On 1 okt 2010, at 18:00, "Young,Jeff (OR)" <jyoung@oclc.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> If somebody wanted to put a Linked Data RWO URI in a MARC Authority
>> >> record, where would it plausibly go?
>> >>>
>> >>> Jeff
>> >>>
>> >>> ---
>> >>> Jeffrey A. Young
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>> >>
>> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> Martin Malmsten (martin.malmsten@kb.se) - Senior Developer
>> >> National Library of Sweden / National cooperation dept. / LIBRIS
>> >> http://libris.kb.se
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> Martin Malmsten (martin.malmsten@kb.se) - Senior Developer
>> National Library of Sweden / National cooperation dept. / LIBRIS
>> http://libris.kb.se
>>
>>
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