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RE: Linked Data URIs in MARC Authorities

From: Young,Jeff (OR) <jyoung@oclc.org>
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 15:47:04 -0400
Message-ID: <52E301F960B30049ADEFBCCF1CCAEF5909EDB52C@OAEXCH4SERVER.oa.oclc.org>
To: "Martin Malmsten" <Martin.Malmsten@kb.se>
Cc: <public-lld@w3.org>
Martin,

I can believe that "the 1XX identifies what the record is *about*" and would challenge anyone to argue otherwise.

What is your argument for choosing $0 rather than $u? Neither are currently specified and $u appears to be commonly used for URIs in other fields:

http://www.loc.gov/marc/856guide.html#other_fields

Jeff

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Malmsten [mailto:Martin.Malmsten@kb.se]
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 3:32 PM
> To: Young,Jeff (OR)
> Cc: public-lld@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Linked Data URIs in MARC Authorities
> 
> Jeff,
> 
> I understand, but would not putting a $0 in the 1XX accomplish just
> that since the 1XX identifies what the record is "about"? I'm just
> saying that by using $0 you could link to other things (or Things) from
> other parts of the record as well.
> 
> However, we do actually use 856 with a $z in our production environment
> today. It works, but I do not like the amount of implicit information
> with this (or rather our version of this) solution.
> 
> Example:
> 100 '1' ' ' $aStrindberg, August, $d1849-1912
> 856 '4' '8' $uhttp://viaf.org/viaf/54154627 $zVIAF
> 
> /martin
> 
> On Oct 1, 2010, at 8:54 PM, Young,Jeff (OR) wrote:
> 
> > Martin,
> >
> > I think our use cases are getting mixed up. I want a place to
> identify the thing the Authority record (as a whole) represents.
> Linking to *other* things inside a MARC record is a harder and more
> controversial problem as Michael's response indicates. I'm hoping this
> is low-hanging fruit, but I admit the difference is subtle.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Martin Malmsten [mailto:Martin.Malmsten@kb.se]
> >> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 2:36 PM
> >> To: Young,Jeff (OR)
> >> Cc: public-lld@w3.org
> >> Subject: Re: Linked Data URIs in MARC Authorities
> >>
> >> Jeff, Karen.
> >>
> >> I prefer a subfield over a field because may I want to link only
> parts
> >> of the record, and not necessarily the 1XX-field, to another
> resource
> >> without having to resort to a $8-link (*shudder*).
> >>
> >> Example:
> >> 150 ' ' ' ' $aMödrar
> >> 750 ' ' '0' $aMothers $0
> >> http://id.loc.gov/authorities/sh85087526#concept
> >>
> >> /martin
> >>
> >> On Oct 1, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Young,Jeff (OR) wrote:
> >>
> >>> How about this:
> >>>
> >>> 856 4# $u http://example.org/foo
> >>>
> >>> Here's the documentation for the field:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ad856.html
> >>> http://www.loc.gov/marc/856guide.html
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>>
> >>> From: Martin Malmsten [mailto:Martin.Malmsten@kb.se]
> >>> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 12:26 PM
> >>> To: Young,Jeff (OR)
> >>> Cc: public-lld@w3.org
> >>> Subject: Re: Linked Data URIs in MARC Authorities
> >>>
> >>> I'm considering/testing $0 in the 1XX fields, analogues to $0 in
> the
> >> bib record. The idea is that a DbPedia/Freebase/VIAF URI could
> >> authorise an authority record. "Global headings change" becomes a
> fun
> >> challenge with LD URIs within the record :)
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> On 1 okt 2010, at 18:00, "Young,Jeff (OR)" <jyoung@oclc.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> If somebody wanted to put a Linked Data RWO URI in a MARC Authority
> >> record, where would it plausibly go?
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> Jeffrey A. Young
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> >>
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Martin Malmsten (martin.malmsten@kb.se) - Senior Developer
> >> National Library of Sweden / National cooperation dept. / LIBRIS
> >> http://libris.kb.se
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Martin Malmsten (martin.malmsten@kb.se) - Senior Developer
> National Library of Sweden / National cooperation dept. / LIBRIS
> http://libris.kb.se
> 
> 
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