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Re: Linked Data Platform Working Group Charter comment

From: <Ora.Lassila@nokia.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:05:55 +0000
To: <ivan@w3.org>
CC: <michael.hausenblas@deri.org>, <public-ldp@w3.org>
Message-ID: <CB3AF6EF.7FD1%ora.lassila@nokia.com>
Ivan,

Indeed. [Sigh] If I knew of an access control mechanism that is mature and
proven in the Linked Data context I would have made a much stronger
statement in favor of addressing the issue. We do not want to engage in
R&D work (we have made that mistake before ;-) but my great fear is that
if we merely suggest that someone else will take care of this we may be
signaling that this is not an issue of paramount importance.

I don't have any magical answers or advice here, I am merely expressing
concern... I guess I would like there at least to be some discussion about
this. Saying that there is no solution and saying that something is out of
scope should, after all, not be the same thing.

	- Ora


On 2012-01-17 9:54 AM, "ext Ivan Herman" <ivan@w3.org> wrote:

>Ora,
>
>I hear you. However (and that may show my complete ignorance...) is there
>any access control mechanism out there that has already proven itself in
>the area of Linked Data deployment that is in the maturity level of
>standardization? I am a bit concerned about chartering this group with an
>essentially R&D work while the other goals are much less so...
>
>Ivan
>
>On Jan 17, 2012, at 15:47 , <Ora.Lassila@nokia.com> wrote:
>
>> As much as I would like to have a "tight scope" for this WG, I have to
>> observe that access control (or more like lack thereof) has often been a
>> problem in Semantic Web/Linked Data projects I have been involved in.
>> Particularly fine-grained access control of Semantic Web data.
>> 
>> I fear that deeming access control strictly "out of scope" and hoping
>>that
>> some (so far unspecified) liaison with other groups to solve this
>>problem
>> will only result in the issue not being seen as important enough.
>> 
>> My $0.02.
>> 
>> 	- Ora
>> 
>> -- 
>> Dr. Ora Lassila  ora.lassila@nokia.com  http://www.lassila.org

>> Principal Technologist, Nokia
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2012-01-17 6:25 AM, "ext Michael Hausenblas"
>> <michael.hausenblas@deri.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> I'd suggest to improve the following section and be more explicit
>>> regarding the bigger picture [1]:
>>> 
>>> [[
>>> 2.3 Out of Scope
>>> Several possible standards that are out of scope for this group, such
>>> as those listed below:
>>> 
>>> 	€ Access control mechanisms, WebACL, Web Identity
>>> ]]
>>> 
>>> Mention that both authentication and authorisation are orthogonal
>>> issues and hence, in order to stay focused and to be successful, the
>>> WG will not focus on these issues (but liaison with the respective
>>> groups to ensure compatibility and openness).
>>> 
>>> Thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 	Michael
>>> 
>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/wiki/WriteWebOfData

>>> --
>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow
>>> LiDRC - Linked Data Research Centre
>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
>>> Ireland, Europe
>>> Tel. +353 91 495730
>>> http://linkeddata.deri.ie/

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>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
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