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Re: ldp-ISSUE-33 (pagination): how to structure functionality

From: Roger Menday <roger.menday@uk.fujitsu.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:53:45 +0000
CC: "public-ldp-wg@w3.org" <public-ldp-wg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <34E931A5-21A1-445B-8A77-B9B26F3BC450@uk.fujitsu.com>
To: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>

>>> if your goal is to build an RDF-centric version of XForms, then you can do
>>> >that and XForms would be a useful thing to look at and see what worked
>>> >well, and what didn't. however, i'd say that doing this is outside of the
>>> >scope of the WG, and all we can hope for is to use existing specs. URI
>>> >Templates are different from XForms in that the model is much simpler that
>>> >XML or RDF; it's just a bunch of name/value pairs
>> RDF is a simple as name/value pairs, IMHO, and way simpler than XML.
>> In the primer that LDP produces, we need to convey this message, I believe.
>> 
>> anyway ....:)  
> Yes, but RDF and XML are not comparable things, hence the eternal confusion.

Kingsley, 

I wasn't confusing RDF and XML, and wasn't trying to re-open that discussion --- honestly !! :) I just wanted to be positive about our RDF (rather than XML) foundations - to be pleased about them infact!

As regards your other email about inferencing, I understand your point (although I am not from a 'semantics' background as such). I was just saying that too much about the "I" word is not good for uptake. That's an understandable position, don't you think ?  

regards, 
Roger

> RDF is a conflation of:
> 
> 1. Data Model -- webby entity relationship model endowed with explicit semantics (this enables the construction of self-describing resources)
> 2. Data Representation Syntaxes
> 3. Data Serialization Formats.
> 
> Coincidentally, I gave a short presentation [1] about this issue of conflation, last night.
> 
> Links:
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> 1. http://slidesha.re/UGg18k - Linked Data, RDF, and the Semantic Web
> 2. http://bit.ly/T3kWUv -- Entity Relationship Model and the Unified View of Data (about Peter Chen's 1976 dissertation)
> 3. http://bit.ly/YTdz3N -- Peter Chen's actual dissertation.
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> Regards,
> 
> Kingsley Idehen	
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