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Re: ldp-ISSUE-33 (pagination): how to structure functionality

From: Roger Menday <roger.menday@uk.fujitsu.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:52:47 +0000
CC: "public-ldp-wg@w3.org" <public-ldp-wg@w3.org>, "ashok.malhotra@oracle.com" <ashok.malhotra@oracle.com>, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
Message-ID: <D7EF2C65-D436-4144-82B1-200B33CC4603@uk.fujitsu.com>
To: "Wilde, Erik" <Erik.Wilde@emc.com>

hello Erik, 

> if your goal is to build an RDF-centric version of XForms, then you can do
> that and XForms would be a useful thing to look at and see what worked
> well, and what didn't. however, i'd say that doing this is outside of the
> scope of the WG, and all we can hope for is to use existing specs. URI
> Templates are different from XForms in that the model is much simpler that
> XML or RDF; it's just a bunch of name/value pairs

RDF is a simple as name/value pairs, IMHO, and way simpler than XML. 
In the primer that LDP produces, we need to convey this message, I believe. 

anyway .... :) 

> (with a couple of twists
> such as repeating values and more, depending on the level
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6570#section-1.2). but maybe that's better
> than nothing and good enough to drive some of the things we'd like to do.

I can't see how URI templates can be used for directing how request bodies are constructed. 
How would that work ? 

thanks, 
Roger

> 
>> By adding semantics to forms, you end up discovering that a web form
>> is just equivalent to a query - but where the user is the agent answering.
> 
> i think your understanding of forms is limited here. forms do much more
> than drive queries, and a form itself is nothing but a model template
> that's made available by a server, so that a client can complete it
> according to constraints, and then submit an instance of form data to the
> server. driving some query is an important subset of form use cases, but
> not all there is.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> dret.
> 
> 



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