[I18N ITS] Teleconference Minutes 2006-12-20

... are at http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html and below
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Felix

   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

                        i18n ITS Working Group

20 Dec 2006

   [2]Agenda

      [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006OctDec/0050.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Adrzej, Christian, Felix, Sebastian, Yves

   Regrets

   Chair
          Yves

   Scribe
          Felix

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]action items
         2. [6]AI 03 from the agenda
         3. [7]AI 04 from the agenda
         4. [8]New ITS comments
         5. [9]open ITS issues
         6. [10]AOB
     * [11]Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________

action items

   <scribe> ACTION: Andrzej to check if his implementation works with
   without the <ns> element, using xmlns instead. (PENDING) [recorded
   in [12]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]

   Andrzej: hopefully will be done this week

   <scribe> ACTION: Yves to make an inheritance & overriding example
   for Andrzej and send it to him, both verify that inheritance works
   the right way (PENDING) [recorded in
   [13]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action02]

   Andrzej: will pass this now to my engineer

   <scribe> ACTION: Felix to add a link to the script in the
   implementation report (DONE) [recorded in
   [14]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action03]

   <scribe> ACTION: Felix to check if "publication" as a form of test
   report script on w3c server is possible (ONGOING) [recorded in
   [15]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action04]

   [16]http://www.w3.org/2005/08/online_xslt/

     [16] http://www.w3.org/2005/08/online_xslt/

   Felix: wanted to use this XSLT interface
   [17]http://www.w3.org/2005/08/online_xslt/ for upload
   ... of a file with your input data and result data
   ... the file would have the format at
   [18]http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/input-file-list.xml

     [17] http://www.w3.org/2005/08/online_xslt/
     [18] http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/input-file-list.xml

   Yves: would be good

   Yves to extract the result format for each data category from his
   implementation and send it to the list. esp. Sebastian and Felix to
   check if they can live with Yves's proposal (ONGOING)

   <scribe> ACTION: Yves to extract the result format for each data
   category from his implementation and send it to the list. esp.
   Sebastian and Felix to check if they can live with Yves's proposal
   (ONGOING) [recorded in
   [19]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action05]

   Felix: need to create s.t. for ruby and directionality

   Yves: we need to address different namespace

   Felix: I would just put all ITS markup into the result namespace
   ... when I finish the XSLT script, I'll make a list of all "output"
   markup

   Yves: so you can adapt your implementations to use that

   <scribe> ACTION: Felix to make sure we have test examples for
   direcionality and ruby (DONE) [recorded in
   [20]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action06]

   Felix: added the examples from the draft, we have both global and
   local, no examples for ruby pointer attributes yet

   <YvesS>
   [21]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006OctDec/0
   074.html

     [21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006OctDec/0074.html

AI 03 from the agenda

   Sebastian: no further comments

   Andrzej: o.k.

   <scribe> ACTION: Christian to send an update with Yves' feedback on
   AI 03 included [recorded in
   [22]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action07]

   <YvesS>
   [23]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006OctDec/0
   075.html

     [23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006OctDec/0075.html

AI 04 from the agenda

   Yves: "caveat" does not fit maybe

   Sebastian: Clarification is a clearer word

   <scribe> ACTION: Yves to add the inheritance example to CVS
   [recorded in
   [24]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action08]

   <YvesS>
   [25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006OctDec/0
   073.html

     [25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006OctDec/0073.html

New ITS comments

   Yves: the comment about XLink is troubesome

   Sebastian: we have to add an attribute to our schema?

   Yves: XLink has the "type" attribute
   ... we have to change the exampes

   Sebastian: it does not effect the implementations
   ... does the XLink type attribute to be compulsory?

   <scribe> ACTION: Sebastian to add the XLink type attribute to the
   test suite files, Felix to do the same with the files related to the
   ODD file [recorded in
   [26]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action09]

   Yves: the other issue is the "version" attribute
   ... Jirka was asking why we have the "version" attribute in a
   namespace

   <scribe> ACTION: Felix to go back to Jirka on the "version"
   attribute saying we don't see a lot of gain from the change
   [recorded in
   [27]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action10]

   <scribe> ACTION: Felix to ask Jirka about whether he wants to
   participate in ITS actively [recorded in
   [28]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action11]

   <scribe> ACTION: editors to go to the draft and check that there are
   no "CSS style elements" or the like [recorded in
   [29]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action12]

   <scribe> ACTION: Felix to change links from the WD to examples, so
   that they link to the input data directory [recorded in
   [30]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action13]

   Sebastian: on the name() function: you could use local-name()
   instead

   <scribe> ACTION: Felix to make the schematron fix [recorded in
   [31]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action14]

   Yves: last issue: how does versioning work?

   <scribe> ACTION: Felix to go back to Jirka and explain versioning
   [recorded in
   [32]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action15]

open ITS issues

   [33]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&
   short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=ITS&component=ITS
   +tagset&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=a
   llwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssub

     [33] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=ITS&component=ITS+tagset&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssub

   Yves: we are working on
   [34]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4096

     [34] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4096

   Sebastian: for
   [35]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3319 , we are
   waiting for Andrzej?

     [35] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3319

   Yves: yes

   Felix: Sebastian, is
   [36]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006OctDec/0
   065.html still an issue?

     [36] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006OctDec/0065.html

   Sebastian: I think that's my problem, no need to track it for 4096

   Yves: [37]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4098 is also
   ongoing with the editors
   ... 4099 is the implementation format

     [37] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4098

   <scribe> ACTION: Editors to add to a draft s.t. about the output of
   ITS processing [recorded in
   [38]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action16]

   Felix: like "This spec defines ITS markup and its interpretation and
   processing. It does not define the result of the processing. That
   depends on the implementation"

   Yves: on [39]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3941
   ... do we need a description in the draft on how to handle whose?
   ... also no description for multiple notes as the result

     [39] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3941

   <YvesS> [40]http://www.w3.org/2006/11/01-i18nits-minutes.html#item03

     [40] http://www.w3.org/2006/11/01-i18nits-minutes.html#item03

   Felix: maybe we don't need BP about XPath in the tagset document,
   maybe we can have this in the BP document

   Christian: will the BP not focus on non-ITS stuff?

   Yves: no, there will be ITS stuff as well

   Christian: ok

   RESOLUTION: close 3941 : we don't need BP about XPath in the tagset
   document, maybe we can have this in the BP document

AOB

   Felix: everybody waiting for XSLT implementation of the test compare
   script, will do that ASAP

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Christian to send an update with Yves' feedback on AI
   03 included [recorded in
   [41]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action07]
   [NEW] ACTION: Editors to add to a draft s.t. about the output of ITS
   processing [recorded in
   [42]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action16]
   [NEW] ACTION: editors to go to the draft and check that there are no
   "CSS style elements" or the like [recorded in
   [43]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action12]
   [NEW] ACTION: Felix to ask Jirka about whether he wants to
   participate in ITS actively [recorded in
   [44]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action11]
   [NEW] ACTION: Felix to change links from the WD to examples, so that
   they link to the input data directory [recorded in
   [45]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action13]
   [NEW] ACTION: Felix to go back to Jirka and explain versioning
   [recorded in
   [46]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action15]
   [NEW] ACTION: Felix to go back to Jirka on the "version" attribute
   saying we don't see a lot of gain from the change [recorded in
   [47]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action10]
   [NEW] ACTION: Felix to make the schematron fix [recorded in
   [48]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action14]
   [NEW] ACTION: Sebastian to add the XLink type attribute to the test
   suite files, Felix to do the same with the files related to the ODD
   file [recorded in
   [49]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action09]
   [NEW] ACTION: Yves to add the inheritance example to CVS [recorded
   in [50]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action08]

   [PENDING] ACTION: Andrzej to check if his implementation works with
   without the element, using xmlns instead. [recorded in
   [51]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Felix to check if "publication" as a form of test
   report script on w3c server is possible [recorded in
   [52]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action04]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Yves to extract the result format for each data
   category from his implementation and send it to the list. esp.
   Sebastian and Felix to check if they can live with Yves's proposal
   [recorded in
   [53]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action05]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Yves to make an inheritance & overriding example
   for Andrzej and send it to him, both verify that inheritance works
   the right way [recorded in
   [54]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action02]

   [DONE] ACTION: Felix to add a link to the script in the
   implementation report [recorded in
   [55]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action03]
   [DONE] ACTION: Felix to make sure we have test examples for
   direcionality and ruby [recorded in
   [56]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action06]

   [End of minutes]
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