- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:46:25 +0900
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Felix
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
i18n ITS IG
02 Sep 2008
[2]Agenda
[2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2008Aug/0014.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-i18nits-irc
Attendees
Present
YvesS, Felix, Syd, Ingo, camille
Regrets
Christian
Chair
Yves
Scribe
Felix
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]ITS-oriented reviews of XML specifications
2. [6]ITS Rules repository
3. [7]ITS Processor API
4. [8]ITS Processor with XSLT
5. [9]ITS General issues
6. [10]ITS Streaming processor
7. [11]AOB
8. [12]Teleconference time
* [13]Summary of Action Items
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ITS-oriented reviews of XML specifications
Felix to look into XSD 1.1
Felix: general extensibilty in XSD 1.1 as in 1.0, no need for
specific ITS declarations
Felix to bring Atom case to i18n core and back to IETF back, also
done (at least the i18n core part)
Yves to look at UIML (Oasis), not done yet
Rodolfo to look at XUL, no update on this
[14]http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-skos-reference-20080829/
[14] http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-skos-reference-20080829/
SKOS Simple Knowledge Organization System Reference
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to look at SKOS LC draft [recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-79 - Look at SKOS LC draft [on Yves
Savourel - due 2008-09-09].
Felix: no need to look into POWDER, I think
<camille> i SOrry I'm late
<YvesS>
[16]http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/PR-pronunciation-lexicon-20080818/
[16] http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/PR-pronunciation-lexicon-20080818/
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to review PLS PR draft [recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-i18nits-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-80 - Review PLS PR draft [on Felix Sasaki
- due 2008-09-09].
Yves: outside W3C specs, any ideas? Nothing new it seems
ITS Rules repository
<YvesS> [18]http://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/OOXML10
[18] http://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/OOXML10
Yves: if you have any rules for a format, even a simple example,
please contribute
Felix: proposal to link to rules from BP document
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to add a link to the rules repositoriy to the
BP document and the test suite [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-i18nits-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-81 - Add a link to the rules repositoriy
to the BP document and the test suite [on Yves Savourel - due
2008-09-09].
ITS Processor API
<YvesS>
[20]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2008Jun/0
014.html
[20]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2008Jun/0014.html
Felix: currently looking into the backtracking of the API
Yves: looking into it too again
ITS Processor with XSLT
Felix to look into XPath expressivity in SAX engine of saxon
Felix: need feedback from Rodolfo on what part of Saxon he talked
about
Rodolfo to try look at the xslt decorator, also pending
[21]http://www.w3.org/International/its/its-translate-decorator/02/i
ts-translate-decorator-02.zip
[21]
http://www.w3.org/International/its/its-translate-decorator/02/its-translate-decorator-02.zip
Felix: version above is in XSLT 1.0, please have a look if you can
use it
<scribe> ACTION: Everybody to try XSLT 1.0 decorator at
[22]http://www.w3.org/International/its/its-translate-decorator/02/i
ts-translate-decorator-02.zip [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-i18nits-minutes.html#action04]
[22]
http://www.w3.org/International/its/its-translate-decorator/02/its-translate-decorator-02.zip
ITS General issues
"Ingo to put together a use case for the local "Elements within
Text" usage"
Ingo: thought about it, best use case was streaming processor
without XPath rules
... I had another action item about context support in ITS
... for TM matching, if you have context, you could use them for
matching
... you could also give context to the translator
Yves: what is context
... element with content in a document?
Ingo: when translating it would be useful to see the context
... they might have the same context across documents
Yves: could you post a mail explaining that?
Ingo: yes
<scribe> ACTION: Ingo to post a mail about context of ITS
information [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-i18nits-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Ingo
Ingo: for "Elements within Text" I don't see a use case local, only
with streaming
... if you don't use XPath
Yves: could you explain that in a mail as well?
Ingo: yes
<scribe> ACTION: Ingo to explain "Elements within Text" local
streaming issue [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-i18nits-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Ingo
Yves: another issue with taking the source from one place and
putting it into another place
ITS Streaming processor
Yves: anything new here? Basic problem is that for streaming you
would need some simplified version of XPath
... as soon as you have relative expressions you can go everywhere,
which is difficult for streaming
<scribe> .. no progress here
Yves: I'll see if we can get feedback from Jirka or others
AOB
Ingo: for "elements within text", what is if there are other
elements, do they inherit from their parent element "within text"?
Yves: no, they would not inherit
Ingo: so e.g. emphasis would not inherit from strong?
Yves: yes
Ingo: even if strong is within text "yes"?
Yves: yes
Ingo: spec was a bit unclear about that in 6.8.1
[26]http://www.w3.org/TR/its/#within-text-definition
[26] http://www.w3.org/TR/its/#within-text-definition
"The element and its content are part of the flow of its parent
element.". Content could be child elements as well
Yves: yes a bit unclear. But answer is "no", it applies just to text
content. But yes this is unclear
Ingo: will there be a certification program for ITS tools?
Yves: no, we encourage people to use the tests
Teleconference time
Now talking about teleconference time
everybody on the call is fine, but though for people in Australia
We will make the change, from now on our call is regulary like today
Yves: yes
... next call September 23rd
Ingo: regrets for that one
adjourned
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Everybody to try XSLT 1.0 decorator at
[27]http://www.w3.org/International/its/its-translate-decorator/02/i
ts-translate-decorator-02.zip [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-i18nits-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Felix to review PLS PR draft [recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-i18nits-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Ingo to explain "Elements within Text" local streaming
issue [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-i18nits-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: Ingo to post a mail about context of ITS information
[recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-i18nits-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves to add a link to the rules repositoriy to the BP
document and the test suite [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-i18nits-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves to look at SKOS LC draft [recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]
[27]
http://www.w3.org/International/its/its-translate-decorator/02/its-translate-decorator-02.zip
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