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RE: [WCAG2 TECHS] i18n comment 2: H34 use of entities

From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:31:45 -0000
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Cc: <public-i18n-core@w3.org>
Message-ID: <00b201c82876$8f691660$6501a8c0@rishida>

Unfortunately, there are still some problems with this technique. Since you
have merged your response into our comment #1 at
http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0706-wcag2-techniques/ I will make
further comments in that thread, and recommend that this thread stops here.

See
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007OctDec/0135.html
for my comments.


RI


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-i18n-core-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:public-i18n-core-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Richard Ishida
> Sent: 16 November 2007 15:46
> To: public-i18n-core@w3.org
> Subject: [WCAG2 TECHS] i18n comment 2: H34 use of entities
> 
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Loretta Guarino Reid [mailto:lorettaguarino@google.com]
>   Sent: 04 November 2007 05:09
>  ...
>   Please review our resolutions for the following comments,  
> and reply to  us by 19 November 2007 at  
> public-comments-wcag20@w3.org to say whether  you are  
> satisfied. Note that this list is publicly archived.
>  ...
>   WCAG 2.0 Editor's Draft of May-October 2007 at  
> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-20071102/
>   
>  ...
>  
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > Comment 7: H34: (example 1) implication that you have to use 
> > a character entity
> > Source: 
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/200
> 7Jun/0043.html
> > (Issue ID: 1965)
> > ----------------------------
> > Original Comment:
> > ----------------------------
> > 
> > Comment from the i18n review of:
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20070517/
> > 
> > Comment 2
> > At http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0706-wcag2-techniques/
> > Editorial/substantive: E
> > Owner: RI
> > 
> > Location in reviewed document:
> > H34 
> > 
> [http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20070517/Overview.html#H34]
> > 
> > Comment:
> >  You don't have to use a character entity, although that may 
> > be inferred from the current text in H34. In fact, there are 
> > more than one possible issue with that:
> > 
> > - the editor may not display character entities as you'd 
> > expect, due to the bidi algorithm (on the other hand, the 
> > editor may make RLM characters visible, like Notepad does, in 
> > which case this becomes a better solution)
> > 
> > - there is a case for using NCRs rather than character 
> > entities in XHTML, since it is XML-based and the entities are 
> > declared outside the document, and some parsers may not 
> > validate when such entities are involved.
> > 
> > If you keep the example you should probably modify the text 
> > to say "Inserting a Unicode right-to-left mark (in this case 
> > via the HTML character entity) ..." or just indicate that 
> > characters, entities and ncrs are possible approaches.
> > 
>  ---------------------------------------------
>  Response from Working Group:
>  ---------------------------------------------
>  
>  Response:
>  Thank you for helping us improve this technique and its 
>  example. We have made the changes to the technique described 
>  in our response to your comment 
>  
>
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2007Jun/0042.html
>  
> 
> 
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